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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com,
	Linus WALLEIJ <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Naveen Kumar GADDIPATI <naveen.gaddipati@stericsson.com>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jayeeta BANDYOPADHYAY <jayeeta.banerjee@stericsson.com>,
	ext Sundar R IYER <sundar.iyer@stericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:07:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101011170733.GA27304@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1010111240390.2339-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:53:11PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> 
> > > > This means messing up with the currently set timeout. If userspace could
> > > > have an option of "accelerating" expiring of the current timeout that
> > > > would be better.
> > > 
> > > Accelerating the expiration of the timeout _is_ a form of messing with
> > > the currently-set timeout.  It can't be "better".
> > 
> > I was thinking about the case where timeout is user-supplied setting.
> > Instead of having application store the original value, write 0, and
> > later on restore it, I thought it would be better (as in simpler) to
> > have a separate sysfs entry to "expire" the original timeout
> > immediately.
> 
> What you're suggesting can be added.  For example, writing a blank line
> to power/autosuspend_delay_ms could be defined to have this effect.  
> I'm not sure how beneficial it would turn out to be in the long run.
> 
> > > Can you give any examples where "sticky off" is really useful (other
> > > than just for debugging)?
> > > 
> > 
> > A mobile device might have a set of keys that, once device is put into
> > lower power mode, should not bring the device out of that mode. This I
> > would call a "sticky off" case.
> 
> But here the "sticky off" refers to the entire mobile device, not to 
> any particular driver.

Where did I say that? The device is still running, playing your favorite
song collection for example. Still you probably do not want your car
keys compose and e-mail for you while you are jogging, thus the main
keypad would be forced off.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-05 16:54 [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad Sundar R IYER
2010-10-05 17:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06  8:32   ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06  8:56     ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06  9:48       ` Onkalo Samu
2010-10-06 11:41         ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06 11:58           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06 15:43           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 16:19             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-06 17:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:19                 ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 18:26                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:51                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:08                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-06 20:08                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-09 10:52                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-09 22:46                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-09 23:02                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-10 20:34                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-10 20:51                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-10 21:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-10 22:24                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11 15:56                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-12  0:08                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 18:46                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-11  3:16                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 16:06                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 16:15                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 16:53                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 17:07                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-10-11 21:54                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-11 22:08                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-12  7:25                                                   ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12 15:34                                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 15:53                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-12 17:45                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 16:32                                                       ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-12 17:49                                                       ` Mark Brown
2010-10-12 18:27                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-10-12 18:30                                                           ` Mark Brown
2010-10-13  6:16                                                           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-13  9:57                                                             ` Mark Brown
2010-10-13 14:10                                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-10-13 17:25                                                                 ` Sundar
2010-10-13 17:37                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-10-13 17:42                                                                     ` Sundar
2010-10-13 18:00                                                                       ` Sundar
2010-10-13 20:26                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-14 13:50                                                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-10-14 19:00                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-15 16:04                                                                               ` Sundar
2010-10-13  7:11         ` Pavel Machek
2010-10-13 17:35           ` Ferenc Wagner
2010-10-13 19:20             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek

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