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From: Carlos Corbacho <carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk>
To: Joey Lee <jlee@novell.com>
Cc: corentin.chary@gmail.com, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@novell.com>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@novell.com>,
	mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, jbenc@suse.cz, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Support enable Acer Launch Manager mode
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:19:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201010180819.36661.carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CBC4C660200002300022008@novprvlin0050.provo.novell.com>

On Monday 18 October 2010 03:32:22 Joey Lee wrote:
> So, we choice remove rfkill-input then put the logic in x86/platform
> driver?
> A simple question:
> Userland policy daemon or kernel module, which one we want to put the
> wifi hotkey behavior implementation?

Pass. I really have no opinion on the above, as long as we pick something and 
stick with it (i.e. not-another-rfkill-rewrite).

> > We don't have Launch Manager for Linux, and quite frankly, I hope we
> > never see it - relying on random, vendor specific applications to drive
> > this kind of functionality is just asking for trouble.
> 
> Acer BIOS team provide the function to OS for disable the EC hehavior,
> it's available on window, why we hide it on Linux?

As an aside, just because Windows does something is not a good reason to do it 
or expose on on Linux if it doesn't make any sense.

> Either userland daemon or kernel module who want to implement the wifi
> hotkey behavior, it need enable the launch-manager mode to disable the
> default EC behavior on wifi hotkey.

When did Acer laptops start doing this then? The behaviour they always did in 
the past was that pressing the wireless/ bluetooth/ 3G button sent out a 
scancode, and is was then the job of something else to catch that (be it 
rfkill-input or friends) and for that something else to then toggle the state.

Do the current batch of laptops then just 'magically' toggle the state without 
needing rfkill-input?

(And do you actually have contact with someone on the Acer BIOS team? Because 
I've never managed to get through to anyone at Acer, so would be interested to 
know).

> If don't want provide the launch-manager mode parameter to userland, can
> we just direct enable it?

Well, my point is more that we should figure out what we want, and then stick 
with that. I don't want to add a pointless module paramater that all of three 
people are ever going to use, and then have to support it working both ways.

-Carlos
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-18  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-18  2:32 [PATCH 2/3] Support enable Acer Launch Manager mode Joey Lee
2010-10-18  4:07 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-18  7:19 ` Carlos Corbacho [this message]
2010-10-18  7:55   ` Corentin Chary
2010-10-18  8:14     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-18  8:40       ` Corentin Chary
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-30 16:28 Joey Lee
2010-10-21  3:35 Joey Lee
2010-10-19 13:25 Joey Lee
2010-10-19 13:28 ` Corentin Chary
2010-10-19 15:49   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-19 16:03     ` Corentin Chary
2010-10-19 16:49       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-19 11:15 Joey Lee
2010-10-19 13:07 ` Corentin Chary
2010-10-19  9:55 Joey Lee
2010-10-19 10:51 ` Corentin Chary
2010-10-19  8:09 Joey Lee
2010-10-19  2:48 Joey Lee
2010-10-18  4:53 Joey Lee
2010-10-18  8:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-15  8:02 Joey Lee
2010-10-15 17:11 ` Carlos Corbacho
2010-10-13  3:47 [PATCH 1/3] Add acer wmi hotkey events support Lee, Chun-Yi
2010-10-13  3:47 ` [PATCH 2/3] Support enable Acer Launch Manager mode Lee, Chun-Yi
2010-10-13 18:26   ` Dmitry Torokhov

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