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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
Cc: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Ping Cheng <pingc@wacom.com>,
	Chris Bagwell <chris@cnpbagwell.com>,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] input: Introduce device information ioctl
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:52:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201012151352.23229.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D09302C.4000309@canonical.com>

On Wednesday, December 15, 2010 01:16:28 pm Chase Douglas wrote:
> On 12/15/2010 02:20 PM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> > Today, userspace sets up an input device based on the data it emits.
> > This is not always enough; a tablet and a touchscreen may emit exactly
> > the same data, for instance, but the former should be set up with a
> > pointer whereas the latter does not need to. Recently, a new type of
> > touchpad has emerged where the buttons are under the pad, which
> > changes handling logic without changing the emitted data. This patch
> > introduces a new ioctl, EVIOCGPROP, which enables user access to a set
> > of device properties useful during setup. The properties are given as
> > a bitmap in the same fashion as the event types.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
> > ---
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Here is version two of the device information proposal. In addition to
> > implementing the feedback, this version only defines a single combined
> > type/capabilities field. Since we want to support a device being of
> > multiple types, it suggests that we are really after the properties
> > that make up a type, rather than the types themselves. And since
> > quirks are also properties, we end up with a single bitmap of
> > properties instead.
> > 
> > As an example of how this would work for the
> > touchpad/tablet/touchscreen triplet, there are two properties defined,
> > INPUT_PROP_POINTER and INPUT_PROP_DIRECT. A touchpad is an indirect
> > pointer device, a tablet is a direct pointer device, and the
> > touchscreen is simply a direct device.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> 
> I must have missed the first version of this patch, but I give two
> thumbs way up :). The detection code for touchpad/tablet/touchscreen in
> xf86-input-evdev is large and unwieldy, and seemingly simple changes to
> an input driver can cause incorrect interpretation. Having this
> available should help quite a bit!
> 
> Acked-by: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>

As long as we document that !pointer && !direct means "unknown" or
"unspecified" so as to avoid having to update all devices at once that
should be OK.

We also need to wire up uinput.

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-15 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-15 19:20 [RFC v2] input: Introduce device information ioctl Henrik Rydberg
2010-12-15 21:16 ` Chase Douglas
2010-12-15 21:52   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-12-16  7:43     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-12-16  0:29 ` Peter Hutterer
2010-12-16  0:43   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-12-16 13:57     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-12-20  8:16     ` Peter Hutterer
2010-12-16 14:18   ` Henrik Rydberg

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