* Annoying touchpad behavior
@ 2011-11-12 4:10 Alan Stern
2011-11-12 6:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alan Stern @ 2011-11-12 4:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: linux-input
Dmitry:
My laptop has a Synaptics touchpad:
[ 2.528474] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.2, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04731/0xa40000/0xa0000
[ 2.566383] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input4
Under circumstances which I can't pin down (they generally involve my
thumb brushing over the trackpad, which happens fairly often as I
type), the touchpad reports a right-click. This causes gnome-terminal
to pop up its menu, which is very annoying.
Why does the trackpad report a right-click instead of a normal
left-click? How can I fix this?
Thanks,
Alan Stern
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* Re: Annoying touchpad behavior
2011-11-12 4:10 Annoying touchpad behavior Alan Stern
@ 2011-11-12 6:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-11-12 17:15 ` Alan Stern
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2011-11-12 6:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan Stern; +Cc: linux-input
Hi Alan,
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:10:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> Dmitry:
>
> My laptop has a Synaptics touchpad:
>
> [ 2.528474] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.2, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04731/0xa40000/0xa0000
> [ 2.566383] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input4
>
> Under circumstances which I can't pin down (they generally involve my
> thumb brushing over the trackpad, which happens fairly often as I
> type), the touchpad reports a right-click. This causes gnome-terminal
> to pop up its menu, which is very annoying.
>
> Why does the trackpad report a right-click instead of a normal
> left-click? How can I fix this?
You probably have corner taps or multi-finger taps enabled on your box.
What does "synclient' has to say about your setup?
Thanks.
--
Dmitry
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* Re: Annoying touchpad behavior
2011-11-12 6:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
@ 2011-11-12 17:15 ` Alan Stern
2011-11-12 17:46 ` Daniel Kurtz
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alan Stern @ 2011-11-12 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: linux-input
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:10:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > Dmitry:
> >
> > My laptop has a Synaptics touchpad:
> >
> > [ 2.528474] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.2, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04731/0xa40000/0xa0000
> > [ 2.566383] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input4
> >
> > Under circumstances which I can't pin down (they generally involve my
> > thumb brushing over the trackpad, which happens fairly often as I
> > type), the touchpad reports a right-click. This causes gnome-terminal
> > to pop up its menu, which is very annoying.
> >
> > Why does the trackpad report a right-click instead of a normal
> > left-click? How can I fix this?
>
> You probably have corner taps or multi-finger taps enabled on your box.
> What does "synclient' has to say about your setup?
Here's the output from "synclient -l":
Parameter settings:
LeftEdge = 1762
RightEdge = 5334
TopEdge = 1642
BottomEdge = 4520
FingerLow = 24
FingerHigh = 29
FingerPress = 255
MaxTapTime = 180
MaxTapMove = 234
MaxDoubleTapTime = 180
SingleTapTimeout = 180
ClickTime = 100
FastTaps = 0
EmulateMidButtonTime = 75
EmulateTwoFingerMinZ = 29
EmulateTwoFingerMinW = 7
VertScrollDelta = 106
HorizScrollDelta = 106
VertEdgeScroll = 1
HorizEdgeScroll = 0
CornerCoasting = 0
VertTwoFingerScroll = 0
HorizTwoFingerScroll = 0
MinSpeed = 1
MaxSpeed = 1.75
AccelFactor = 0.0375094
TrackstickSpeed = 40
EdgeMotionMinZ = 29
EdgeMotionMaxZ = 159
EdgeMotionMinSpeed = 1
EdgeMotionMaxSpeed = 426
EdgeMotionUseAlways = 0
TouchpadOff = 0
LockedDrags = 0
LockedDragTimeout = 5000
RTCornerButton = 0
RBCornerButton = 0
LTCornerButton = 0
LBCornerButton = 0
TapButton1 = 1
TapButton2 = 3
TapButton3 = 2
ClickFinger1 = 1
ClickFinger2 = 1
ClickFinger3 = 1
CircularScrolling = 0
CircScrollDelta = 0.1
CircScrollTrigger = 0
CircularPad = 0
PalmDetect = 0
PalmMinWidth = 10
PalmMinZ = 199
CoastingSpeed = 20
CoastingFriction = 50
PressureMotionMinZ = 29
PressureMotionMaxZ = 159
PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
GrabEventDevice = 1
TapAndDragGesture = 1
AreaLeftEdge = 0
AreaRightEdge = 0
AreaTopEdge = 0
AreaBottomEdge = 0
A few of the fields are suggestive, but I don't really understand much
of it. If you need anything else, let me know.
Alan Stern
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* Re: Annoying touchpad behavior
2011-11-12 17:15 ` Alan Stern
@ 2011-11-12 17:46 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-11-12 20:35 ` Alan Stern
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Kurtz @ 2011-11-12 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan Stern; +Cc: Dmitry Torokhov, linux-input
Hi Alan,
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:10:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
>> > Dmitry:
>> >
>> > My laptop has a Synaptics touchpad:
>> >
>> > [ 2.528474] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.2, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04731/0xa40000/0xa0000
>> > [ 2.566383] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input4
>> >
>> > Under circumstances which I can't pin down (they generally involve my
>> > thumb brushing over the trackpad, which happens fairly often as I
>> > type), the touchpad reports a right-click. This causes gnome-terminal
>> > to pop up its menu, which is very annoying.
>> >
>> > Why does the trackpad report a right-click instead of a normal
>> > left-click? How can I fix this?
>>
>> You probably have corner taps or multi-finger taps enabled on your box.
>> What does "synclient' has to say about your setup?
>
> Here's the output from "synclient -l":
>
> Parameter settings:
> LeftEdge = 1762
> RightEdge = 5334
> TopEdge = 1642
> BottomEdge = 4520
> FingerLow = 24
> FingerHigh = 29
> FingerPress = 255
> MaxTapTime = 180
> MaxTapMove = 234
> MaxDoubleTapTime = 180
> SingleTapTimeout = 180
> ClickTime = 100
> FastTaps = 0
> EmulateMidButtonTime = 75
> EmulateTwoFingerMinZ = 29
> EmulateTwoFingerMinW = 7
> VertScrollDelta = 106
> HorizScrollDelta = 106
> VertEdgeScroll = 1
> HorizEdgeScroll = 0
> CornerCoasting = 0
> VertTwoFingerScroll = 0
> HorizTwoFingerScroll = 0
> MinSpeed = 1
> MaxSpeed = 1.75
> AccelFactor = 0.0375094
> TrackstickSpeed = 40
> EdgeMotionMinZ = 29
> EdgeMotionMaxZ = 159
> EdgeMotionMinSpeed = 1
> EdgeMotionMaxSpeed = 426
> EdgeMotionUseAlways = 0
> TouchpadOff = 0
> LockedDrags = 0
> LockedDragTimeout = 5000
> RTCornerButton = 0
> RBCornerButton = 0
> LTCornerButton = 0
> LBCornerButton = 0
> TapButton1 = 1
> TapButton2 = 3
The synaptics X input driver is probably interpreting large contacts
as 2-fingers, which is in turn being translated into a 2-finger tap.
To completely disable "2-finger Tap as Right Click", try setting TapButton2 = 0.
To temporarily change the setting, you can use the synclient program.
To make it permanent, change the value in the Synaptics section of
your xorg.conf file, and restart X.
-Dan
> TapButton3 = 2
> ClickFinger1 = 1
> ClickFinger2 = 1
> ClickFinger3 = 1
> CircularScrolling = 0
> CircScrollDelta = 0.1
> CircScrollTrigger = 0
> CircularPad = 0
> PalmDetect = 0
> PalmMinWidth = 10
> PalmMinZ = 199
> CoastingSpeed = 20
> CoastingFriction = 50
> PressureMotionMinZ = 29
> PressureMotionMaxZ = 159
> PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
> PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
> GrabEventDevice = 1
> TapAndDragGesture = 1
> AreaLeftEdge = 0
> AreaRightEdge = 0
> AreaTopEdge = 0
> AreaBottomEdge = 0
>
> A few of the fields are suggestive, but I don't really understand much
> of it. If you need anything else, let me know.
>
> Alan Stern
>
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* Re: Annoying touchpad behavior
2011-11-12 17:46 ` Daniel Kurtz
@ 2011-11-12 20:35 ` Alan Stern
2011-11-13 0:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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From: Alan Stern @ 2011-11-12 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Kurtz; +Cc: Dmitry Torokhov, linux-input
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011, Daniel Kurtz wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Alan,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:10:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> >> > Dmitry:
> >> >
> >> > My laptop has a Synaptics touchpad:
> >> >
> >> > [ 2.528474] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.2, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04731/0xa40000/0xa0000
> >> > [ 2.566383] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input4
> >> >
> >> > Under circumstances which I can't pin down (they generally involve my
> >> > thumb brushing over the trackpad, which happens fairly often as I
> >> > type), the touchpad reports a right-click. This causes gnome-terminal
> >> > to pop up its menu, which is very annoying.
> >> >
> >> > Why does the trackpad report a right-click instead of a normal
> >> > left-click? How can I fix this?
> >>
> >> You probably have corner taps or multi-finger taps enabled on your box.
> >> What does "synclient' has to say about your setup?
> >
> > Here's the output from "synclient -l":
...
> The synaptics X input driver is probably interpreting large contacts
> as 2-fingers, which is in turn being translated into a 2-finger tap.
That's right! 2-finger taps are reliably interpreted as right-clicks.
> To completely disable "2-finger Tap as Right Click", try setting TapButton2 = 0.
> To temporarily change the setting, you can use the synclient program.
> To make it permanent, change the value in the Synaptics section of
> your xorg.conf file, and restart X.
The synclient program does the job. However there is no Synaptics
section in xorg.conf. In fact, there isn't any xorg.conf file at all;
the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory contains only
00-system-setup-keyboard.conf, which talks about the keyboard but not
the touchpad.
Presumably I can add a similar file with config information for the
touchpad driver, but I'm not sure what it should say. Any suggestions?
Alan Stern
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* Re: Annoying touchpad behavior
2011-11-12 20:35 ` Alan Stern
@ 2011-11-13 0:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-11-13 2:22 ` Alan Stern
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2011-11-13 0:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan Stern; +Cc: Daniel Kurtz, linux-input
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 03:35:24PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011, Daniel Kurtz wrote:
>
> > Hi Alan,
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Alan,
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:10:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > >> > Dmitry:
> > >> >
> > >> > My laptop has a Synaptics touchpad:
> > >> >
> > >> > [ ? ?2.528474] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 7.2, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xd04731/0xa40000/0xa0000
> > >> > [ ? ?2.566383] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input4
> > >> >
> > >> > Under circumstances which I can't pin down (they generally involve my
> > >> > thumb brushing over the trackpad, which happens fairly often as I
> > >> > type), the touchpad reports a right-click. ?This causes gnome-terminal
> > >> > to pop up its menu, which is very annoying.
> > >> >
> > >> > Why does the trackpad report a right-click instead of a normal
> > >> > left-click? ?How can I fix this?
> > >>
> > >> You probably have corner taps or multi-finger taps enabled on your box.
> > >> What does "synclient' has to say about your setup?
> > >
> > > Here's the output from "synclient -l":
> ...
>
> > The synaptics X input driver is probably interpreting large contacts
> > as 2-fingers, which is in turn being translated into a 2-finger tap.
>
> That's right! 2-finger taps are reliably interpreted as right-clicks.
>
> > To completely disable "2-finger Tap as Right Click", try setting TapButton2 = 0.
> > To temporarily change the setting, you can use the synclient program.
> > To make it permanent, change the value in the Synaptics section of
> > your xorg.conf file, and restart X.
>
> The synclient program does the job. However there is no Synaptics
> section in xorg.conf. In fact, there isn't any xorg.conf file at all;
> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory contains only
> 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf, which talks about the keyboard but not
> the touchpad.
>
> Presumably I can add a similar file with config information for the
> touchpad driver, but I'm not sure what it should say. Any suggestions?
I think the following link explains it fairly well:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration
Hope this helps.
--
Dmitry
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* Re: Annoying touchpad behavior
2011-11-13 0:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
@ 2011-11-13 2:22 ` Alan Stern
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alan Stern @ 2011-11-13 2:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: Daniel Kurtz, linux-input
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > The synclient program does the job. However there is no Synaptics
> > section in xorg.conf. In fact, there isn't any xorg.conf file at all;
> > the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory contains only
> > 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf, which talks about the keyboard but not
> > the touchpad.
> >
> > Presumably I can add a similar file with config information for the
> > touchpad driver, but I'm not sure what it should say. Any suggestions?
>
> I think the following link explains it fairly well:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration
>
> Hope this helps.
Yes, it does ... sort of. I set it up and it works correctly. But the
gnome-mouse-properties trackpad settings override my changes whenever I
log in or resume from suspend! And there's no way to customize those
settings; the TapButton* things are either all on or all off.
Oh well. At least now I know what the problem is and what needs to be
done. Thanks to both of you for your help.
Alan Stern
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