From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Nick Dyer <nick.dyer@itdev.co.uk>
Cc: Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>,
Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
Alan.Bowens@atmel.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmeerw@pmeerw.net,
bleung@chromium.org, olofj@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add memory access interface via sysfs
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:07:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130605210715.GA16013@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51AFA02B.3000604@itdev.co.uk>
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:31:39PM +0100, Nick Dyer wrote:
> Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> >> We have made a deliberate choice to implement this via sysfs rather than
> >> debugfs since it needs to work on devices that don't have debugfs enabled.
> >
> > Then they will have to enable it. Re-implementing something because
> > someone might not enable needed subsystem is not a good idea. Let's
> > say somebody disabled I2C - will you write your own implementation because
> > of that? Of course not, you just say that for given functionality it
> > is a prerequisite.
>
> debugfs is a debug filesystem. This interface is useful for purposes which
> are not debug.
What other purposes does it serve? I'd expect you need it during new
board bringup.
> I have to be pragmatic: I don't see debugfs enabled on most
> shipping Android devices, and however much I tell them to enable debugfs
> doesn't seem to hold much weight.
You do not need to have debugfs enabled on shipping kernels, just the
ones you use for integration work.
>
> It's partly path dependence - it was implemented like this because regmap
> wasn't in mainline at the point when I wrote it. Having a dependency on
> regmap would now be a API break complicating support of customers using
> older kernels than mainline. I would also have to update a bunch of
> software and documentation and people to know about the two different APIs.
> The existing implementation already appears in shipping devices, so it is
> well tested.
This was never a good argument for introducing an interface into the
kernel.
>
> >> In addition, there are some quirks about the way in which we have to
> >> read/write registers which means regmap isn't a good fit.
> >
> > Could you please elaborate more on this?
>
> - the mxt chip caches the I2C read pointer, so you can get a performance
> optimisation by not sending the address on every read/write (I haven't
> implemented this yet but plan to)
> - the address pointer can wrap around when you read the T5 message
> processor, which would confuse regmap
> - we require I2C retries in some cases due to way the chip handles sleep states
> - I can't see how to map the object protocol (used on mxt chips) into the
> way regmap treats register ranges
>
> I can look into porting on top of regmap. But it seems a pity to pepper
> regmap with atmel_mxt_ts quirks just to save on three small functions in
> the driver.
This is not about saving 3 functions but rather the fact that individual
register access is desired by many parties and instead of each driver
implementing it's own solution (via a char device, sysfs, debugfs, etc)
we should try to standardize on common userspace interface.
Thanks.
--
Dmitry
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2013-06-05 17:36 Atmel updates to atmel_mxt_ts touch controller driver - v5 Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>, Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>, Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>, Alan.Bowens@atmel.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmeerw@pmeerw.net, bleung@chromium.org, olofj@chromium.org Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 01/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Remove unnecessary platform data Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 02/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Improve T19 GPIO keys handling Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 03/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Return IRQ_NONE when interrupt handler fails Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 04/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - define helper functions for size and instances Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 05/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Select FW_LOADER for firmware code Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 06/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - wait for CHG assert in mxt_check_bootloader Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 07/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - wait for CHG after bootloader resets Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 08/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Initialise IRQ before probing Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 09/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Make wait-after-reset period compatible with all chips Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 10/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add memory access interface via sysfs Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-05 18:45 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 19:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-05 20:31 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 21:07 ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2013-06-05 21:36 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 10:03 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 10:31 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 10:55 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 11:17 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 13:16 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 16:13 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 16:46 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-07 15:12 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-07 15:41 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-07 16:11 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-07 16:47 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-11 10:39 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-11 11:47 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-11 12:16 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-19 18:59 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-21 16:16 ` Nick Dyer
2013-07-02 10:11 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-11 7:41 ` Nick Dyer
2013-07-11 10:30 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 9:48 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 10:40 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 10:46 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 11:00 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 11:14 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 11:34 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 13:21 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 18:01 ` Greg KH
2013-06-07 14:47 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 11/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement debug output for messages Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 12/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Improve error reporting and debug Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 13/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement CRC check for configuration data Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 14/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Download device config using firmware loader Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 15/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Calculate and check CRC in config file Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 16/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add additional bootloader addresses Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 17/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Read and report bootloader version Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 18/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement bootloader frame retries Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 19/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Improve bootloader progress output Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 20/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add check for incorrect firmware file format Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 21/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Read screen config from chip Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 22/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Set default irqflags when there is no pdata Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 23/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Use deep sleep mode when stopped Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 24/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add shutdown function Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 25/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Rename pressure to amplitude to match spec Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 26/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Rename touchscreen defines to include T9 Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 27/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle multiple input reports in one message Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 28/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Move input device init into separate function Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 29/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle APP_CRC_FAIL on startup Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 30/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle bootloader previously unlocked Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 31/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add bootloader addresses for new chips Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 32/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Recover from bootloader on probe Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 33/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add support for dynamic message size Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 34/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Decode T6 status messages Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 35/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Split message handler into separate functions Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 36/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement T44 message handling Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 37/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Output status from T48 Noise Supression Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 38/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Output status from T42 Touch Suppression Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 39/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement vector/orientation support Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 40/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - implement I2C retries Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 41/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement T63 Active Stylus support Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 42/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement support for T15 Key Array Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 43/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Remove unused defines Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 44/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Verify Information Block checksum on probe Nick Dyer
2013-06-07 18:37 ` Yufeng Shen
2013-06-10 9:35 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 45/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Use T18 RETRIGEN to handle IRQF_TRIGGER_LOW Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 46/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle reports from T47 Stylus object Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 47/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Release touch state during suspend Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 48/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Initialize power config before and after downloading cfg Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 49/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add regulator control support Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 50/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement support for T100 touch object Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 51/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Allow specification of firmware file name Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 52/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle cfg filename via pdata/sysfs Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 53/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Only use first T9 instance Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 19:18 ` Atmel updates to atmel_mxt_ts touch controller driver - v5 Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>, Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>, Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>, Alan.Bowens@atmel.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmeerw@pmeerw.net, bleung@chromium.org, olofj@chromium.org Dmitry Torokhov
[not found] ` <CAPDwgkPdtj0Th8P+y9e5O7swARfzS40sG1A3Ba=pAmeXfMx0Dw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-06 19:46 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-07 20:21 ` Yufeng Shen
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