From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dmitry Torokhov Subject: Re: Problems with Elantech touchpad in 3.18-rc2 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:24:36 -0700 Message-ID: <20141031162436.GA36996@dtor-ws> References: <545271E1.30306@gmail.com> <20141030180331.GF36444@dtor-ws> <20141030192506.GH36444@dtor-ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mail-ig0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175]:63281 "EHLO mail-ig0-f175.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753327AbaJaQYl (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:24:41 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f175.google.com with SMTP id h3so1260650igd.2 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20141030192506.GH36444@dtor-ws> Sender: linux-input-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-input@vger.kernel.org To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Roel Aaij , "linux-input@vger.kernel.org" , Jiri Kosina , Pavel Machek , Hans de Goede On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:25:06PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:06:03PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Dmitry Torokhov > > wrote: > > > > > > Linus, any guidance here? Can we live with such regression? > > > > No. If people are already finding machines with problems, that means > > that there will be a lot of them once distributions move to that > > kernel. > > My only argument here is that failure is much less severe than with MUX > case: when in legacy mode the worst that is happening is that advanced > features (multi-touch, two-finger scroilling, etc) do not work so the > experience is similar to Windows box with no venrod drivers installed. > Whereas when active MUX does not work but we are tying to use it your > device is completely hosed. So I slept on it and I decided that we should indeed revert the patch, since it causes more grief to people with good hardware than I expected. We should not punish owners of good hardware because some vendors can't write their firmware. Thanks. -- Dmitry