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* Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow
@ 2015-07-31 16:59 Pali Rohár
  2015-07-31 17:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2015-07-31 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Torokhov, Hans de Goede; +Cc: linux-input, linux-kernel

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Hello,

here is output from dmesg for psmouse.ko

[  266.378751] psmouse: calling psmouse_init()
[  267.167150] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x [..5676], y [..4758]
[  267.198416] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x [1266..], y [1096..]
[  267.260402] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.1, id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf002a3/0x943300/0x12e800, board 
id: 3072, fw id: 2560
[  267.260418] psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0
[  267.299629] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input39
[  268.697333] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: send extension cmd 0x00, [0 0 0 0]
[  269.259351] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: Command 0x00 response data (0x): 00 00 14
[  269.562762] psmouse serio4: alps: E6 report: 00 00 64
[  269.825915] psmouse serio4: alps: E7 report: 10 00 64
[  270.086671] psmouse serio4: alps: EC report: 10 00 64
[  270.125866] psmouse serio4: alps: Likely not an ALPS touchpad: E7=10 00 64, EC=10 00 64
[  270.388147] psmouse serio4: elantech: unexpected magic knock result 0x00, 0x02, 0x64.
[  271.390241] psmouse serio4: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3
[  271.586156] input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio4/input/input40

As you can see it takes about 5 seconds to initialize TrackPoint input
device. And about 3 seconds from stage after synaptics export serio
device. I think this is just because of trying to detect device type.
Is there any way how to speed it up? Maybe for synaptics serio devices
try to probe for TPPS/2 at first?

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow
  2015-07-31 16:59 Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow Pali Rohár
@ 2015-07-31 17:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
  2015-07-31 17:17   ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2015-07-31 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár; +Cc: Hans de Goede, linux-input, linux-kernel

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:59:21PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> here is output from dmesg for psmouse.ko
> 
> [  266.378751] psmouse: calling psmouse_init()
> [  267.167150] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x [..5676], y [..4758]
> [  267.198416] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x [1266..], y [1096..]
> [  267.260402] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.1, id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf002a3/0x943300/0x12e800, board 
> id: 3072, fw id: 2560
> [  267.260418] psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0
> [  267.299629] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input39
> [  268.697333] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: send extension cmd 0x00, [0 0 0 0]
> [  269.259351] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: Command 0x00 response data (0x): 00 00 14
> [  269.562762] psmouse serio4: alps: E6 report: 00 00 64
> [  269.825915] psmouse serio4: alps: E7 report: 10 00 64
> [  270.086671] psmouse serio4: alps: EC report: 10 00 64
> [  270.125866] psmouse serio4: alps: Likely not an ALPS touchpad: E7=10 00 64, EC=10 00 64
> [  270.388147] psmouse serio4: elantech: unexpected magic knock result 0x00, 0x02, 0x64.
> [  271.390241] psmouse serio4: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3
> [  271.586156] input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio4/input/input40
> 
> As you can see it takes about 5 seconds to initialize TrackPoint input
> device. And about 3 seconds from stage after synaptics export serio
> device. I think this is just because of trying to detect device type.
> Is there any way how to speed it up? Maybe for synaptics serio devices
> try to probe for TPPS/2 at first?

Did you abandon your trusty Dell with ALPS? ;)

Yes, I think we should limit the number of protocols that we probe on
pass-through port to standard PS/2 flavors + TPPS/2 since I have never
seen anything else there.

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

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* Re: Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow
  2015-07-31 17:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
@ 2015-07-31 17:17   ` Pali Rohár
  2015-07-31 17:30     ` Dmitry Torokhov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2015-07-31 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: Hans de Goede, linux-input, linux-kernel

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On Friday 31 July 2015 19:08:49 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:59:21PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > here is output from dmesg for psmouse.ko
> > 
> > [  266.378751] psmouse: calling psmouse_init()
> > [  267.167150] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates:
> > x [..5676], y [..4758] [  267.198416] psmouse serio1: synaptics:
> > queried min coordinates: x [1266..], y [1096..] [  267.260402]
> > psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.1, id:
> > 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf002a3/0x943300/0x12e800, board id: 3072, fw id:
> > 2560
> > [  267.260418] psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics
> > pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0 [  267.299629] input:
> > SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
> > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input39 [  268.697333]
> > psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: send extension cmd 0x00, [0 0 0 0] [ 
> > 269.259351] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: Command 0x00 response
> > data (0x): 00 00 14 [  269.562762] psmouse serio4: alps: E6
> > report: 00 00 64
> > [  269.825915] psmouse serio4: alps: E7 report: 10 00 64
> > [  270.086671] psmouse serio4: alps: EC report: 10 00 64
> > [  270.125866] psmouse serio4: alps: Likely not an ALPS touchpad:
> > E7=10 00 64, EC=10 00 64 [  270.388147] psmouse serio4: elantech:
> > unexpected magic knock result 0x00, 0x02, 0x64. [  271.390241]
> > psmouse serio4: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e,
> > buttons: 3/3 [  271.586156] input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as
> > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio4/input/input40
> > 
> > As you can see it takes about 5 seconds to initialize TrackPoint
> > input device. And about 3 seconds from stage after synaptics
> > export serio device. I think this is just because of trying to
> > detect device type. Is there any way how to speed it up? Maybe for
> > synaptics serio devices try to probe for TPPS/2 at first?
> 
> Did you abandon your trusty Dell with ALPS? ;)
> 

No, I'm not going to do that :-) 

> Yes, I think we should limit the number of protocols that we probe on
> pass-through port to standard PS/2 flavors + TPPS/2 since I have
> never seen anything else there.
> 
> Thanks.

And If not limiting, at least changing order and preferring TPPS/2.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow
  2015-07-31 17:17   ` Pali Rohár
@ 2015-07-31 17:30     ` Dmitry Torokhov
  2015-07-31 18:11       ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2015-07-31 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár; +Cc: Hans de Goede, linux-input, linux-kernel

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 07:17:02PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Friday 31 July 2015 19:08:49 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:59:21PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > here is output from dmesg for psmouse.ko
> > > 
> > > [  266.378751] psmouse: calling psmouse_init()
> > > [  267.167150] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates:
> > > x [..5676], y [..4758] [  267.198416] psmouse serio1: synaptics:
> > > queried min coordinates: x [1266..], y [1096..] [  267.260402]
> > > psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.1, id:
> > > 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf002a3/0x943300/0x12e800, board id: 3072, fw id:
> > > 2560
> > > [  267.260418] psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics
> > > pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0 [  267.299629] input:
> > > SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
> > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input39 [  268.697333]
> > > psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: send extension cmd 0x00, [0 0 0 0] [ 
> > > 269.259351] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: Command 0x00 response
> > > data (0x): 00 00 14 [  269.562762] psmouse serio4: alps: E6
> > > report: 00 00 64
> > > [  269.825915] psmouse serio4: alps: E7 report: 10 00 64
> > > [  270.086671] psmouse serio4: alps: EC report: 10 00 64
> > > [  270.125866] psmouse serio4: alps: Likely not an ALPS touchpad:
> > > E7=10 00 64, EC=10 00 64 [  270.388147] psmouse serio4: elantech:
> > > unexpected magic knock result 0x00, 0x02, 0x64. [  271.390241]
> > > psmouse serio4: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e,
> > > buttons: 3/3 [  271.586156] input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as
> > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio4/input/input40
> > > 
> > > As you can see it takes about 5 seconds to initialize TrackPoint
> > > input device. And about 3 seconds from stage after synaptics
> > > export serio device. I think this is just because of trying to
> > > detect device type. Is there any way how to speed it up? Maybe for
> > > synaptics serio devices try to probe for TPPS/2 at first?
> > 
> > Did you abandon your trusty Dell with ALPS? ;)
> > 
> 
> No, I'm not going to do that :-) 
> 
> > Yes, I think we should limit the number of protocols that we probe on
> > pass-through port to standard PS/2 flavors + TPPS/2 since I have
> > never seen anything else there.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> And If not limiting, at least changing order and preferring TPPS/2.

Umm, that is not something I'll do lightly as it may lead to
regressions: some devices are confused by other's probes and assing even
more psmouse_reset() calls will slow down boot even more.

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry
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* Re: Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow
  2015-07-31 17:30     ` Dmitry Torokhov
@ 2015-07-31 18:11       ` Pali Rohár
  2015-08-21  8:13         ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2015-07-31 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: Hans de Goede, linux-input, linux-kernel

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On Friday 31 July 2015 19:30:34 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 07:17:02PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Friday 31 July 2015 19:08:49 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:59:21PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > here is output from dmesg for psmouse.ko
> > > > 
> > > > [  266.378751] psmouse: calling psmouse_init()
> > > > [  267.167150] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max
> > > > coordinates: x [..5676], y [..4758] [  267.198416] psmouse
> > > > serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x [1266..], y
> > > > [1096..] [  267.260402] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad
> > > > model: 1, fw: 8.1, id: 0x1e2b1, caps:
> > > > 0xf002a3/0x943300/0x12e800, board id: 3072, fw id: 2560
> > > > [  267.260418] psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics
> > > > pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0 [  267.299629]
> > > > input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
> > > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input39 [  268.697333]
> > > > psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: send extension cmd 0x00, [0 0 0 0]
> > > > [ 269.259351] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: Command 0x00
> > > > response data (0x): 00 00 14 [  269.562762] psmouse serio4:
> > > > alps: E6 report: 00 00 64
> > > > [  269.825915] psmouse serio4: alps: E7 report: 10 00 64
> > > > [  270.086671] psmouse serio4: alps: EC report: 10 00 64
> > > > [  270.125866] psmouse serio4: alps: Likely not an ALPS
> > > > touchpad: E7=10 00 64, EC=10 00 64 [  270.388147] psmouse
> > > > serio4: elantech: unexpected magic knock result 0x00, 0x02,
> > > > 0x64. [  271.390241] psmouse serio4: trackpoint: IBM
> > > > TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3 [  271.586156] input:
> > > > TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as
> > > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio4/input/input40
> > > > 
> > > > As you can see it takes about 5 seconds to initialize
> > > > TrackPoint input device. And about 3 seconds from stage after
> > > > synaptics export serio device. I think this is just because of
> > > > trying to detect device type. Is there any way how to speed it
> > > > up? Maybe for synaptics serio devices try to probe for TPPS/2
> > > > at first?
> > > 
> > > Did you abandon your trusty Dell with ALPS? ;)
> > 
> > No, I'm not going to do that :-)
> > 
> > > Yes, I think we should limit the number of protocols that we
> > > probe on pass-through port to standard PS/2 flavors + TPPS/2
> > > since I have never seen anything else there.
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > 
> > And If not limiting, at least changing order and preferring TPPS/2.
> 
> Umm, that is not something I'll do lightly as it may lead to
> regressions: some devices are confused by other's probes and assing
> even more psmouse_reset() calls will slow down boot even more.
> 
> Thanks.

Ok, then limiting just to TPPS/2 and PS/2 protocols.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: Initialization of TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint in too slow
  2015-07-31 18:11       ` Pali Rohár
@ 2015-08-21  8:13         ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2015-08-21  8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: Hans de Goede, linux-input, linux-kernel

On Friday 31 July 2015 20:11:08 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Friday 31 July 2015 19:30:34 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 07:17:02PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Friday 31 July 2015 19:08:49 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:59:21PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > here is output from dmesg for psmouse.ko
> > > > > 
> > > > > [  266.378751] psmouse: calling psmouse_init()
> > > > > [  267.167150] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max
> > > > > coordinates: x [..5676], y [..4758] [  267.198416] psmouse
> > > > > serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x [1266..], y
> > > > > [1096..] [  267.260402] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad
> > > > > model: 1, fw: 8.1, id: 0x1e2b1, caps:
> > > > > 0xf002a3/0x943300/0x12e800, board id: 3072, fw id: 2560
> > > > > [  267.260418] psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics
> > > > > pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0 [  267.299629]
> > > > > input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
> > > > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input39 [  268.697333]
> > > > > psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: send extension cmd 0x00, [0 0 0 0]
> > > > > [ 269.259351] psmouse serio4: cypress_ps2: Command 0x00
> > > > > response data (0x): 00 00 14 [  269.562762] psmouse serio4:
> > > > > alps: E6 report: 00 00 64
> > > > > [  269.825915] psmouse serio4: alps: E7 report: 10 00 64
> > > > > [  270.086671] psmouse serio4: alps: EC report: 10 00 64
> > > > > [  270.125866] psmouse serio4: alps: Likely not an ALPS
> > > > > touchpad: E7=10 00 64, EC=10 00 64 [  270.388147] psmouse
> > > > > serio4: elantech: unexpected magic knock result 0x00, 0x02,
> > > > > 0x64. [  271.390241] psmouse serio4: trackpoint: IBM
> > > > > TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3 [  271.586156] input:
> > > > > TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as
> > > > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio4/input/input40
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you can see it takes about 5 seconds to initialize
> > > > > TrackPoint input device. And about 3 seconds from stage after
> > > > > synaptics export serio device. I think this is just because of
> > > > > trying to detect device type. Is there any way how to speed it
> > > > > up? Maybe for synaptics serio devices try to probe for TPPS/2
> > > > > at first?
> > > > 
> > > > Did you abandon your trusty Dell with ALPS? ;)
> > > 
> > > No, I'm not going to do that :-)
> > > 
> > > > Yes, I think we should limit the number of protocols that we
> > > > probe on pass-through port to standard PS/2 flavors + TPPS/2
> > > > since I have never seen anything else there.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > And If not limiting, at least changing order and preferring TPPS/2.
> > 
> > Umm, that is not something I'll do lightly as it may lead to
> > regressions: some devices are confused by other's probes and assing
> > even more psmouse_reset() calls will slow down boot even more.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> Ok, then limiting just to TPPS/2 and PS/2 protocols.
> 

Dmitry, do you have some idea how to achieve this?

Modifying psmouse_extensions() function or extending max_proto variable?

-- 
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