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From: Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>
To: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>
Cc: "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"Wysocki, Rafael J" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>, Lv Zheng <zetalog@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [WIP PATCH 2/4] ACPI: button: remove the LID input node when the state is unknown
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 11:27:50 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170607012750.GB13738@jelly> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170606102209.GA14880@mail.corp.redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 12:22:09PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
[...]
> > This is because the aml table puts many Notify(LID, 0x80) in various control methods.
> > And not one of them but multiple of them will be invoked by various OS drivers during suspend/resume period.
> > I think this is not an isolated platform that will invoke multiple redundant "Notify(lid)".
> > 
> > Fortunately, the lid state for the multiple notify(lid) should be same as the first "Notify(lid)".
> > I suppose this is why SW_LID is invented, as it can really filter such redundant events.
> > And user space finally can only see 1 "close" event.
> > 
> > But unconditionally prepending "open" before all "close" events surely can break the logic by
> > delivering multiple "close" events to the user space.
> 
> That doesn't matter. What matters is the state of the switch, not the
> event. So if user space receives (in case we marked the switch as not
> reliable) several close events, all user space will do is realize that
> the state is still closed and will act accordingly.

[...]

> Again, we don't care if the "event" comes from ACPI, the driver itself or
> user space (libinput). All that matters is the current state of the
> input node switch, that needs to match the physical world at any time.

as extra comment on those two: you cannot guarantee when e.g. libinput
checks the state. it may start up after the kernel has updated the EV_SW
state, it may close and re-open a device without notice (disabling a
device in X has that effect for example). So the EV_SW/SW_LID events are
nice to have, but we really rely on the *state* of the switch more than the
events.

Cheers,
   Peter


  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-07  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-01 18:46 [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch exported by ACPI Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-01 18:46 ` [WIP PATCH 1/4] ACPI: button: extract input creation/destruction helpers Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-01 18:46 ` [WIP PATCH 2/4] ACPI: button: remove the LID input node when the state is unknown Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-05  3:19   ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-06 10:22     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-07  1:27       ` Peter Hutterer [this message]
2017-06-07  9:56       ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-01 18:46 ` [WIP PATCH 3/4] ACPI: button: Let input filter out the LID events Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-05  4:28   ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-06 10:31     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-01 18:46 ` [WIP PATCH 4/4] ACPI: button: Fix lid notification locks Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-05  3:33   ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-06 10:29     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-07  9:47       ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-01 21:43 ` [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch exported by ACPI Bastien Nocera
2017-06-02  7:24   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-05  2:25 ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-07  7:48 ` Lennart Poettering
2017-06-13 10:06   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-15  2:52     ` [systemd-devel] " Zheng, Lv
2017-06-15  6:47       ` Peter Hutterer
2017-06-15  7:33         ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-15  7:57           ` Peter Hutterer
2017-06-16  5:37             ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-16  7:23               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-16  7:45                 ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-16  8:09                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2017-06-16  8:53                     ` [systemd-devel] " Zheng, Lv
2017-06-16  9:06                       ` Bastien Nocera
2017-06-16 16:32                         ` Lennart Poettering
2017-06-19  2:16                           ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-19  1:43                         ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-19 22:08                           ` Bastien Nocera
2017-06-20  2:45                             ` [systemd-devel] " Zheng, Lv
2017-06-21 10:23                               ` Bastien Nocera
2017-06-22  3:16                                 ` Zheng, Lv
2017-06-14 23:50   ` Zheng, Lv

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