From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert.lkml@gmail.com>,
Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] input: Add disable sysfs entry for every input device
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 22:48:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180102214852.pnsocg7qaxt5y6qh@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1483442481.2420.12.camel@hadess.net>
On Tuesday 03 January 2017 12:21:21 Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:09 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Monday 02 January 2017 16:27:05 Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2016-12-25 at 11:04 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > This patch allows user to disable events from any input device so
> > > > events
> > > > would not be delivered to userspace.
> > > >
> > > > Currently there is no way to disable particular input device by
> > > > kernel.
> > > > User for different reasons would need it for integrated PS/2
> > > > keyboard or
> > > > touchpad in notebook or touchscreen on mobile device to prevent
> > > > sending
> > > > events. E.g. mobile phone in pocket or broken integrated PS/2
> > > > keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > This is just a RFC patch, not tested yet. Original post about
> > > > motivation
> > > > about this patch is there: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/11/29/92
> > >
> > > Having implemented something of that ilk in user-space (we
> > > automatically disable touch devices when the associated screen is
> > > turned off/suspended), I think this might need more thought.
> >
> > How to implement such thing in userspace? I think you cannot do that
> > without rewriting every one userspace application which uses input.
> >
> > > What happens when a device is opened and the device disabled
> > through
> > > sysfs, are the users revoked?
> >
> > Applications will not receive events. Same as if input device does
> > not
> > generates events.
> >
> > > Does this put the device in suspend in the same way that closing
> > the
> > > device's last user does?
> >
> > Current code not (this is just RFC prototype), but it should be
> > possible
> > to implement.
> >
> > > Is this not better implemented in user-space at the session level,
> > > where it knows about which output corresponds to which input
> > device?
> >
> > How to do that without rewriting existing applications?
> >
> > > Is this useful enough to disable misbehaving devices on hardware,
> > so
> > > that the device is not effective on boot?
> >
> > In case integrated device is absolutely unusable and generates
> > always
> > random events, it does not solve problem at boot time.
> >
> > But more real case is laptop with closed LID press buttons and here
> > it
> > is useful.
>
> There's usually a display manager in between the application and the
> input device.
But that is not always truth. In some cases there are applications which
opens input device directly.
> Whether it's X.org, or a Wayland compositor. Even David's
> https://github.com/dvdhrm/kmscon could help for console applications.
That kmscon needs KMS, right? So it would not work on hardware which do
not have KMS drivers.
--
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-02 21:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-25 10:04 [RFC PATCH] input: Add disable sysfs entry for every input device Pali Rohár
2016-12-30 16:13 ` [RFC] " Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-02 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH] " Bastien Nocera
2017-01-02 17:09 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-03 11:21 ` Bastien Nocera
2017-01-04 7:43 ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-01-04 14:37 ` Bastien Nocera
2017-01-05 12:48 ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-09 1:51 ` Peter Hutterer
2018-01-02 21:54 ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-03 1:47 ` Bastien Nocera
2018-01-03 9:31 ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-09 2:04 ` Peter Hutterer
2018-02-17 21:19 ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-17 11:07 ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-03 1:38 ` Bastien Nocera
2018-01-02 21:48 ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2018-01-03 1:43 ` Bastien Nocera
2017-01-02 16:44 ` David Herrmann
2017-01-02 17:31 ` Pali Rohár
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