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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
Cc: linux-input@vger.kernel.org, kernel@collabora.com,
	Patrik Fimml <patrikf@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Input: Add "inhibited" property
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 17:27:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200506002746.GB89269@dtor-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200430161641.24503-2-andrzej.p@collabora.com>

Hi Andrzej,

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:16:40PM +0200, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> From: Patrik Fimml <patrikf@chromium.org>
> 
> Userspace might want to implement a policy to temporarily disregard input
> from certain devices, including not treating them as wakeup sources.
> 
> An example use case is a laptop, whose keyboard can be folded under the
> screen to create tablet-like experience. The user then must hold the laptop
> in such a way that it is difficult to avoid pressing the keyboard keys. It
> is therefore desirable to temporarily disregard input from the keyboard,
> until it is folded back. This obviously is a policy which should be kept
> out of the kernel, but the kernel must provide suitable means to implement
> such a policy.
> 
> This patch adds a sysfs interface for exactly this purpose.
> 
> To implement the said interface it adds an "inhibited" property to struct
> input_dev and two optional methods - inhibit() and uninhibit(), and
> effectively creates four states a device can be in: closed uninhibited,
> closed inhibited, open uninhibited, open inhibited. It also defers calling
> driver's ->open() and ->close() to until they are actually needed, e.g. it
> makes no sense to prepare the underlying device for generating events
> (->open()) if the device is inhibited.
> 
>               uninhibit
> closed      <------------ closed
> uninhibited ------------> inhibited
>       | ^     inhibit        | ^
>  1st  | |               1st  | |
>  open | |               open | |
>       | |                    | |
>       | | last               | | last
>       | | close              | | close
>       v |     uninhibit      v |
> open        <------------ open
> uninhibited ------------> inhibited
> 
> The top inhibit/uninhibit transition happens when users == 0.
> The bottom inhibit/uninhibit transition happens when users > 0.
> The left open/close transition happens when !inhibited.
> The right open/close transition happens when inhibited.
> Due to all transitions being serialized with dev->mutex, it is impossible
> to have "diagonal" transitions between closed uninhibited and open
> inhibited or between open uninhibited and closed inhibited.
> 
> While open()/close() could be used in place of uninhibit()/inhibit(),
> underlying driver implementations have very different ideas of what it
> means to open/close, to suspend/resume or to pm runtime suspend/resume.
> On top of that close() does not return a code, so using close() there be
> no way to actually fail inhibiting.

While I totally agree that we want to allow drivers to have flexibility
in implementing open/close/inhibit/uninhibit, I believe for majority of
devices using close() in place of inhibit and open() in place of
uninhibit is a very viable solution and will allow us to realize most of
the power savings.

Can we try to fall back on open/close when uninhibit/inhbit is not
present?

I think this will also require some preliminary work in the drivers with
regard to suspend/resume, as they tend to directly check
input_dev->users when deciding whether they need to power up the
hardware/take it out of sleep. With inhibit in place we need to beef up
this condition, I'd like to have something


bool input_device_enabled(struct input_dev *dev)
{
	lockdep_assert_held(&dev->mutex);
	return !dev->inhibited && dev->users != 0;
}

or something similar.

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-06  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-30 16:16 [PATCH 0/2] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-30 16:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-06  0:27   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2020-05-15 16:49     ` [PATCHv2 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:51       ` [PATCHv2 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:51       ` [PATCHv2 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:52       ` [PATCHv2 4/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:52       ` [PATCHv2 5/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 17:02         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2020-05-15 16:52       ` [PATCHv2 6/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:52       ` [PATCHv2 7/7] Input: elan_i2c: Support inhibiting Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:53       ` [PATCHv2 3/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 12:40         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-15 18:19       ` [PATCHv2 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-05-17 22:55         ` Peter Hutterer
2020-05-18  2:40           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-05-18  7:36             ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-22 15:35             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-27  6:13               ` Peter Hutterer
2020-05-18 10:48         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 12:24           ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-18 13:49             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 14:23               ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-19  9:02                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-19  9:36                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-27  6:34                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-02 16:56                       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-02 17:52                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-02 18:50                           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-02 20:19                             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-03 13:07                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-03 17:38                                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-03 17:54                                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-03 19:37                                     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-04  7:28                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-05 17:33                                         ` [PATCH v3 " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 19:49                                             ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                           ` [PATCH v3 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:41                                             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 11:22                                               ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:25                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:26                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-07 13:32                                                   ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-07 15:50                                                     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-08 10:05                                                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-09  6:37                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  7:09                                                           ` [PATCH] Input: cyapa - do not call input_device_enabled from power mode handler Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  8:22                                                             ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-11  8:31                                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 15:00                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-25  5:23                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-25 10:55                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-05  5:08                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-25  5:24                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-05  5:06                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10  1:28                                                   ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-10  7:52                                                     ` [FIXED PATCH " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                                 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-05 18:10                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-06 13:04                                                     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-07  1:11                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-07  1:12                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-03  6:26                                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10  9:49                                                 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 10:38                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:12                                                     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10 13:21                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 13:41                                                         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-12  8:30                                                           ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:47                                                             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:29                                                             ` [PATCH] Input: document inhibiting Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:38                                                               ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-17  7:44                                                               ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 10:18                                                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-17 10:21                                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 16:52                                                                   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-23 13:35                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2020-12-03  6:27                                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10 14:01                                                         ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:52                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 18:28                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-12  8:14                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:17                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-08-03 14:40                                                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-07 20:24                                           ` [PATCH v3 " Pavel Machek
2020-06-08  5:37                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08  9:28                                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-04-30 16:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] Input: elan_i2c: Support inhibiting Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:29   ` Dmitry Torokhov

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