From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Sasha Finkelstein <fnkl.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>, Sven Peter <sven@svenpeter.dev>,
Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa@rosenzweig.io>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
- <asahi@lists.linux.dev>, Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@bitmath.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] dt-bindings: input: touchscreen: Add Z2 controller bindings.
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:14:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230227221426.GA1048218-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMT+MTRodB_+sMtoPxv-gP_+sJAwNb36XuLOGo=HvuCQq6h+gQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:06:28PM +0100, Sasha Finkelstein wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 20:51, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +properties:
> > > + compatible:
> > > + const: apple,z2-touchscreen
> >
> > Is 'z2' anything other than a touchscreen? If not, '-touchscreen' is
> > redundant. If so, then what else is there? You should be describing
> > physical devices, not just a protocol for touchscreen.
> >
>
> This is a class of touchscreen controllers that talk the z2 protocol
> over spi.
Yes, you already said that much. So nothing else for this piece of h/w?
Then 'apple,z2' is sufficient. Well maybe. You are assuming all h/w in
the world speaking 'z2' is the same (to software). Usually that's not a
safe assumption, but maybe Apple is better at not changing the h/w...
Normally, the 'protocol' to talk to a device is only part of it. There's
other pieces like how to turn the device on and off which need h/w
specific knowledge. If you need any of that, then you need specific
compatibles. Adding properties for each variation doesn't end up well.
>
> > > + touchscreen-size-y = <640>;
> > > + apple,z2-device-name = "MacBookPro17,1 Touch Bar";
> >
> > Why do we need this string? If you want a human consumed label for
> > some identification, we have a property for that purpose. It's called
> > 'label'. But when there is only 1 instance, I don't really see the
> > point.
>
> I want a libinput-consumed label to distinguish between devices
> using this protocol.
I know little about libinput, but how would it know about
'apple,z2-device-name'?
> It is used both for 'normal' touchscreens, and,
> as is in this example a 'touchbar', which absolutely should not be
> treated as a normal touchscreen, and needs special handling in
> userspace.
Meaning there are both touchscreens and touchbars using this? That
sounds like s/w needs this information. From a DT perspective,
'compatible' is how DT defines exactly what the h/w is and how to use
it. That also doesn't sound like a unique issue. Doesn't the kernel
provide a standard way to tell userspace what's a touchscreen vs.
touchpad vs. ???
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-27 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-24 10:20 [PATCH RFC 0/4] Driver for Apple Z2 touchscreens Sasha Finkelstein via B4 Relay
2023-02-24 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] dt-bindings: input: touchscreen: Add Z2 controller bindings Sasha Finkelstein via B4 Relay
2023-02-24 10:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2023-02-24 11:04 ` Sasha Finkelstein
2023-02-24 11:08 ` Sven Peter
2023-02-28 2:58 ` Hector Martin
2023-02-28 20:53 ` Mark Kettenis
2023-03-01 3:13 ` Hector Martin
2023-02-24 11:03 ` Sven Peter
2023-02-24 11:08 ` Sasha Finkelstein
2023-02-27 22:23 ` Rob Herring
2023-02-27 19:51 ` Rob Herring
2023-02-27 20:06 ` Sasha Finkelstein
2023-02-27 22:14 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2023-02-27 22:25 ` Sasha Finkelstein
2023-02-28 3:05 ` Hector Martin
2023-02-24 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] input: apple_z2: Add a driver for Apple Z2 touchscreens Sasha Finkelstein via B4 Relay
2023-03-09 3:04 ` Jeff LaBundy
2023-02-24 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] arm64: dts: apple: t8103: Add touchbar bindings Sasha Finkelstein via B4 Relay
2023-02-24 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] MAINTAINERS: Add entries for Apple Z2 touchscreen driver Sasha Finkelstein via B4 Relay
2023-02-28 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Driver for Apple Z2 touchscreens Hector Martin
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