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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
To: Mark Pearson <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>
Cc: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Vishnu Sankar" <vishnuocv@gmail.com>,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	hansg@kernel.org, "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, jon_xie@pixart.com,
	jay_lee@pixart.com, zhoubinbin@loongson.cn,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org"
	<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Vishnu Sankar" <vsankar@lenovo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/Mouse: thinkpad_acpi/Trackpoint: Trackpoint Doubletap handling
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 22:51:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250629205148.l2etpceayuzmhzph@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ad6e1e1-aca8-4774-aa4a-60edccaa6d0e@app.fastmail.com>

On Monday 30 June 2025 05:42:45 Mark Pearson wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025, at 2:14 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > Hi Vishnu,
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 09:42:08AM +0900, Vishnu Sankar wrote:
> >> Newer ThinkPads have a doubletap feature that needs to be turned
> >> ON/OFF via the trackpoint registers.
> >> Systems released from 2023 have doubletap disabled by default and
> >> need the feature enabling to be useful.
> >> 
> >> This patch introduces support for exposing and controlling the
> >> trackpoint doubletap feature via a sysfs attribute.
> >> /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/tp_doubletap
> >> This can be toggled by an "enable" or a "disable".
> >> 
> >> With this implemented we can remove the masking of events, and rely on
> >> HW control instead, when the feature is disabled.
> >> 
> >> Note - Early Thinkpads (pre 2015) used the same register for hysteris
> >> control, Check the FW IDs to make sure these are not affected.
> >> 
> >> trackpoint.h is moved to linux/input/.
> >
> > No, please keep everything private to trackpoint.c and do not involve
> > thinkpad_acpi driver. By doing so you are introducing unwanted
> > dependencies (for both module loading, driver initialization, and
> > operation) and unsafe use of non-owned pointers/dangling pointers, etc.
> >
> 
> Do you have recommendations on how to handle this case then?
> 
> This is a Thinkpad specific feature and hence the logic for involving thinkpad_acpi. There are Thinkpad hotkeys that will enable/disable the trackpoint doubletap feature - so there is some linkage. I'm not sure how to avoid that.
> 
> Is there a cleaner way to do this that you'd recommend we look at using? It's a feature (albeit a minor one) on the laptops that we'd like to make available to Linux users.
> 
> Mark

Hello, I do not know what is doubletap and patch description does not
explain it. But for laptop / mouse interface, I'm just giving example
that dell-laptop.c for some particular laptop can enable/disable
touchpad led and uses PS/2 interface for it. See touchpad_led_init().
I do not know if it is ideal or preferred solution, just writing to let
you know, maybe it can be useful.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-29 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20  0:42 [PATCH] x86/Mouse: thinkpad_acpi/Trackpoint: Trackpoint Doubletap handling Vishnu Sankar
2025-06-25 12:07 ` Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found]   ` <CABxCQKvt+vreQN1+BWr-XBu+pF81n5fh9Fa59UBsV_hLgpvh3A@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-26 15:09     ` Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found]       ` <CABxCQKt7SjMhX33WGOTk8hdZf1Hvkp8YYFWJK5v1xcbQQm14nQ@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-27  7:28         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-30 11:36           ` Vishnu Sankar
2025-06-27  5:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-29 20:42   ` Mark Pearson
2025-06-29 20:51     ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2025-06-30 11:21       ` Vishnu Sankar
2025-06-30  5:20     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-30 11:50       ` Vishnu Sankar
2025-06-30 19:03         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-07-02  8:57           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-30 10:55 ` Pavel Machek

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