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From: Paul Fox <pgf@laptop.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg@redhat.com>,
	"Chase Douglas" <chase.douglas@canonical.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Input: Add ioctl to block suspend while event queue is not empty.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:53:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20867.1329357211@foxharp.boston.ma.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201202160030.26503.rjw@sisk.pl> (sfid-20120215_182725_824505_3D84E0E2)

rafael j. wysocki wrote:
 > On Tuesday, February 14, 2012, NeilBrown wrote:
 > 
 > > (or just keep this stuff out of the kernel and let a user-space daemon make
 > > those decisions).
 > 
 > Which is never going to really work, IMHO.
 > 
 > Realistically, do you know of any distro, vendor, whoever, who tried to
 > actually do that in a released product (or even in a release candidate,
 > or milestone, or whatever different from a prototype running only on one's
 > personal desktop)?  I don't.

well, depending on your decision of "that", there are something like
2.5 million OLPC XO laptops that do it.  do they count?  ;-)

we're still in the middle of converting our 2.6-era home-grown power
management mechanisms to the 3.0-era level, using the
.../power/wakeup[_count] and /sys/power/wakeup_count mechanisms. 
(change comes slowly to shipping products.)  but we do have a
user-level suspend manager.

to the real point of your question:  no, i don't think it does what
you're talking about yet -- i.e., control by applications over whether
suspend should be permitted or not exists, but isn't nearly as
reliable or as foolproof as any of the mechanisms discussed here
recently.

paul
=---------------------
 paul fox, pgf@laptop.org

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-16  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-21  2:24 [PATCH] Input: Add ioctl to block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-11 23:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-13 23:52   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-15 23:51     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-16  5:24       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-16 22:31         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-16 22:33           ` Mark Brown
2012-02-14  3:25 ` NeilBrown
2012-02-15 23:30   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-16  1:53     ` Paul Fox [this message]
2012-02-16 21:44       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-15 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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