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From: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
To: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Jiri Kosina" <jikos@kernel.org>,
	"Filipe Laíns" <lains@riseup.net>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Thorsten Leemhuis" <regressions@leemhuis.info>,
	"Nestor Lopez Casado" <nlopezcasad@logitech.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] HID: logitech-hidpp: Add Bluetooth Mouse M336/M337/M535 to unhandled_hidpp_devices[]
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2022 10:59:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a01f3694f683fb6fcff67555ee4106ee48eac29.camel@hadess.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO-hwJLoAXt_uhT7bwphw1PW=4oQsOc_G3yACg-LQrerNx3yFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 10:48 +0100, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:29 AM Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 10:12 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > Evidently, Logitech Bluetooth Mouse M336/M337/M535 (0xb016) does
> > > not
> > > work when HID++ is enabled for it,
> > 
> > This needs the output of the hidpp-list-features tool mentioned
> > earlier
> > in the thread so we can avoid words like "evidently" and provide
> > concrete proof.
> > 
> > But why is it needed in this case? We purposefully try to avoid
> > blanket
> > blocklists. The lack of HID++ can be probed, so the device should
> > work
> > just as it used to (if the fallback code works).
> 
> If I read the probe function correctly, we should have the HID++
> reports present, so a static analysis will not allow us to detect
> that
> information.
> 
> However, this reminds me of the Litra Glow[0]. On this device,
> hidpp_root_get_protocol_version() also reports an error when it is
> obvious it is connected.

On the Litra Glow, the error isn't HIDPP_ERROR_RESOURCE_ERROR, but
HIDPP20_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED (0x09). I have a patch to add those constants
to the driver.

> And AFAICT, a BLE device is supposed to always be connected when it
> is
> presented to the kernel (because disconnect is handled in the BLE
> layer, in bluez).
> 
> Apparently Rafael's mouse is Bluetooth classic, so I have a doubt on
> what happens when it goes into low power.

It would probably just disconnect after a timeout. Reconnection isn't
as fast as with BLE, but it's fast enough.

> > We should only list devices that need special handling, and the
> > ones
> > that don't work once HID++ was probed unsuccessfully.
> > 
> 
> Given the current state of Rafael's mouse it goes into the second
> category. But I suspect we should be smarter in the probe's decision
> to consider if a device is connected or not.

Sure, and that's the data I'm trying to get out of the device.

> 
> Cheers,
> Benjamin
> 
> [0]
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-input/CABfF9mO3SQZvkQGOC09H5s7EEd2UGhpE=GYB46g_zF3aEOVn=Q@mail.gmail.com/
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-07  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-06 14:58 [Regression] Logitech BT mouse unusable after commit 532223c8ac57 (still in 6.1-rc8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  8:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:07   ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07  9:04 ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07  9:16   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:36     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:58       ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07 10:07         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07 10:50           ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07 11:07             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07 17:19               ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07 17:44                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-08 15:20                   ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-13 16:14                     ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-15 15:09                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] HID: Fix regression resulting from commit 532223c8ac57 Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:11   ` [PATCH v1 1/2] HID: generic: Add ->match() check to __check_hid_generic() Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:27     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2022-12-07  9:54       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:12   ` [PATCH v1 2/2] HID: logitech-hidpp: Add Bluetooth Mouse M336/M337/M535 to unhandled_hidpp_devices[] Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:29     ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07  9:47       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07  9:59         ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07 10:05         ` Benjamin Tissoires
2022-12-07 10:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07 10:19           ` Jiri Kosina
2022-12-07 12:43             ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-07 13:00               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07 13:24                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2022-12-07 13:39                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-12-07 14:24               ` Bastien Nocera
2022-12-08 13:32                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2022-12-07  9:48       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2022-12-07  9:59         ` Bastien Nocera [this message]
2022-12-08  7:03 ` [Regression] Logitech BT mouse unusable after commit 532223c8ac57 (still in 6.1-rc8) #forregzbot Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-12-09  6:34   ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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