From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>
Cc: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>,
dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, superm1@ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:25:28 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0E81C8.7050203@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1259025275.3871.55.camel@palomino.walls.org>
Andy Walls wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 22:46 +0100, Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
>> lirc@bartelmus.de (Christoph Bartelmus) writes:
>>
>>>> I think we shouldn't at this time worry about IR transmitters.
>>> Sorry, but I have to disagree strongly.
>>> Any interface without transmitter support would be absolutely unacceptable
>>> for many LIRC users, including myself.
>> I don't say don't use a transmitter.
>> I say the transmitter is not an input device, they are completely
>> independent functions. I can't see any reason to try and fit both in the
>> same interface - can you?
>
> The underlying hardware need not be completely independent.
>
> For example, the CX2584[0123], CX2388[578], CX23418, and CX2310[012]
> chips have IR hardware that shares a common timing source, interrupt
> line, interrupt status register, etc, between IR Rx and Tx. They can
> also do things like loopback of Tx to Rx.
>
> That said, an underlying hardware implementation can be split up to user
> space with separate interfaces Tx and Rx. The underlying driver module
> would have to manage the dependencies. I would guess that would be
> easier for driver modules, if the userspace interfaces were designed
> with such combined IR Tx/Rx hardware in mind.
True, but, in the case of Rx, there are already API's for it. Tx case is
simpler, as we don't have any API for it yet.
I'm not sure if all the existing hardware for TX currently supports only
raw pulse/code sequencies, but I still think that, even on the Tx case,
it is better to send scancodes to the driver, and let it do the conversion
to raw pulse/code, if the hardware requires pulse/code instead of scancodes.
However, as we have green field,
I would add the protocol explicitly for each scancode to be transmitted, like:
struct ir_tx {
enum ir_protocol proto;
u32 scancode;
};
Eventually, we might have a protocol "raw" and some extra field to allow passing
a raw pulse/code sequence instead of a scancode.
Cheers,
Mauro.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-26 13:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-20 13:56 [PATCH 0/3 v2] linux infrared remote control drivers Jarod Wilson
2009-10-20 13:58 ` [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 11:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 12:36 ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 14:14 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 15:20 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 16:53 ` James Mastros
2009-11-23 20:09 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 17:05 ` James Mastros
2009-11-23 17:12 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 17:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 20:14 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 16:19 ` Stefan Richter
2009-11-23 17:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 20:23 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 12:16 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 18:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 19:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-28 2:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-28 2:54 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-28 9:43 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-28 10:31 ` Stefan Richter
2009-11-28 10:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-23 17:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 19:17 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 20:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 21:10 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-24 4:18 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 20:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 12:36 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 13:22 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 18:24 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 19:08 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 20:33 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 21:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 21:27 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 22:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-27 0:19 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27 0:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-26 23:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 23:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 22:59 ` Trent Piepho
2009-11-27 0:45 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27 2:50 ` hermann pitton
2009-11-26 20:37 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 20:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 22:05 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 22:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 23:09 ` Trent Piepho
2009-11-23 17:37 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-23 20:51 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 5:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 17:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 17:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 21:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 0:13 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27 0:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 0:37 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-24 4:37 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-24 23:32 ` IR raw input is not sutable for input system Maxim Levitsky
2009-11-25 3:32 ` Trent Piepho
2009-11-25 13:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-11-25 21:32 ` Sean Young
2009-11-25 22:30 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 22:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-11-26 18:36 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 17:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 5:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-25 17:12 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 5:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 5:31 ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 6:16 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 16:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 23:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 2:28 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-27 3:08 ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27 4:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 5:06 ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27 7:33 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-27 15:33 ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-30 5:01 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-27 4:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-23 21:11 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-23 21:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 21:54 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 22:31 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 22:37 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 22:53 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-12 22:04 ` david
2009-11-24 1:14 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 13:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2009-11-26 13:48 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 16:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-24 0:53 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-24 13:32 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 16:53 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 17:20 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-25 17:40 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 18:07 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 18:20 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-25 18:43 ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 20:49 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 5:53 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 18:40 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 23:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 0:28 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 20:47 ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 21:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 22:31 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-25 23:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 7:28 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 8:39 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 16:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 4:26 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 14:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 15:48 ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 16:03 ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 23:45 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 3:50 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-25 20:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 3:31 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 4:00 ` hermann pitton
2009-11-26 5:41 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 14:28 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-25 17:44 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 19:27 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 4:46 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 8:01 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 8:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 16:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 18:13 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 18:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 20:28 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 21:28 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-27 7:45 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 13:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 17:32 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 17:49 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 23:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 1:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-25 16:45 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 14:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 19:43 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-07 18:19 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-07 23:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 2:42 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-08 4:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 11:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:13 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-08 14:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 17:06 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 12:35 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-08 12:52 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 13:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:01 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:16 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:31 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 16:19 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 23:30 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-09 0:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 17:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 13:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 13:47 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 13:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:19 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 15:56 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 16:27 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 18:15 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-09 0:28 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 16:22 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-08 11:32 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 12:46 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-08 17:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-09 0:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 5:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 6:23 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 9:14 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 17:15 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 12:28 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 13:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 22:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-24 23:23 ` Matthieu CASTET
2009-10-20 14:00 ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] lirc driver for Windows MCE IR transceivers Jarod Wilson
2009-11-13 20:43 ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2009-11-15 6:55 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 12:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-10-20 14:00 ` [PATCH 3/3 v2] lirc driver for SoundGraph iMON IR receivers and displays Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 12:58 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-24 4:31 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-04 22:56 ` [PATCH 0/3 v2] linux infrared remote control drivers Jarod Wilson
2009-11-05 0:07 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-05 3:28 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-05 0:31 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-05 3:41 ` Jarod Wilson
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