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From: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Éric Piel" <E.A.B.Piel@tudelft.nl>,
	"Chris Bagwell" <chris@cnpbagwell.com>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Florian Ragwitz" <rafl@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:05:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C56FAF1.1030503@euromail.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100802162625.GA3276@core.coreip.homeip.net>

On 08/02/2010 06:26 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:22:15PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
>> On 08/02/2010 01:12 PM, Éric Piel wrote:
>>
>>> Op 02-08-10 12:02, Henrik Rydberg schreef:
>>>> On 08/02/2010 10:17 AM, Éric Piel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Op 01-08-10 15:57, Henrik Rydberg schreef:
>>>>>> On 08/01/2010 01:28 PM, Éric Piel wrote:
>>>>> :
>>>>>>> I still think that for the very specific use case of scrolling when
>>>>>>> pressing one finger and moving up and dow the other one, reporting the
>>>>>>> average works better than the first finger. However, I guess this can be
>>>>>>> considered just as a drawback of the ST protocol, and fixed in userspace
>>>>>>> by using the MT protocol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think? Does it look fine to you? Below is the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might have lost track of what problem needs to be solved. The current patch
>>>>>> seems to implement tracking, but still does not solve the individual MT finger
>>>>>> problem. And, it uses the same definition of ABS_X/Y as before. I was also under
>>>>>> the impression that synaptics needs fixing, anyways. All of this taken together
>>>>>> sadly suggests that this patch could just as well be reverted to the original
>>>>>> one. Or? Alternatively, one could switch to the type B protocol, since no
>>>>>> further tracking improvement is possible in userspace. The implementation is
>>>>>> tidy and simple enough, I think.
>>>>> Yes, you're right, the patch I've sent was still with the "average of
>>>>> the 2 fingers", but I'm now willing to drop it. With the tracking, at
>>>>> least we can keep sending info about a real finger and avoid jumps at
>>>>> the transition 1->2, so reporting the first finger might have advantages
>>>>> over reporting the average :-) The improvement for the test case can
>>>>> just go to userspace.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tracking is still not so clever, so it's definitly not adapted to a
>>>>> type B MT protocol (think transition 2->1).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need to add the tracking id and a couple of lines, but i do not see why the
>>>> 2->1 transition would be treated any differently. The one-finger coordinate
>>>> would be close to either position[0] or position[1], which would determine the
>>>> tracking id to keep. Every time you add a finger you add a new tracking id. What
>>>> is your planned support for three fingers?
>>> Yes, yes, it's probably fairly easy to do some kind of tracking. But I
>>> think that as long as the hardware does not provide such a thing, it's
>>> better to do the minimum in kernel space, just enough to be meaningful,
>>> and leave the rest to userspace.
>>
>>
>> The implemented part could also be done in userspace. Going half-way just to
>> circumvent buggy behavior in synaptics is really not a good idea.
>>
> 
> What synaptics you are talking about here? Userspace driver or the
> in-kernel synaptics support? If the latter, then the device is not truly
> multitouch device (latest versions of the hardware/firmware aside) as it
> is capable of reportiong only one set of coordinates (X/Y) in addition
> to number of fingers on the surface.
> 

I was referring to the user-space driver.

Henrik
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-02 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-21 20:59 [PATCH 0/7] elantech: various improvements for 6-byte protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] elantech: Describe further the protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] [NEEDS TEST] elantech: discard the first 2 positions reports for some firmwares Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:03 ` [PATCH 3/7] elantech: distinguish various hardware/firmware versions Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:04 ` [PATCH 4/7] elantech: implement data check for 6-byte protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:05 ` [PATCH 6/7] elantech: export pressure and width when supported Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:06 ` [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers Éric Piel
2010-07-21  3:36   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-30 18:55     ` Éric Piel
2010-07-30 21:01       ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-30 21:41         ` Éric Piel
2010-07-31  9:28           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31  9:33             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-31 12:49               ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 23:00                 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01  7:52                   ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 19:56           ` Chris Bagwell
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTi=cEEx-5eQPbRYvMMaECvXKQ+i-e0Eaw_g4JY7=@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 23:04           ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01  9:37             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-01 11:28               ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01 13:57                 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02  8:17                   ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 10:02                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 11:12                       ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 11:22                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 11:33                           ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 11:46                             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 12:13                               ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 12:29                                 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 12:46                                   ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 13:03                                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 13:23                                       ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 14:12                                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 16:39                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-02 17:15                                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-08 22:51                                         ` Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:52                                           ` [PATCH 07/10] elantech: Report multitouch with proper ABS_MT messages Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:53                                           ` [PATCH 08/10] elantech: track finger to distinguish coordinates in 2-finger report Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:54                                           ` [PATCH 09/10] elantech: remove support for proprietary X driver Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:55                                           ` [PATCH 10/10] elantech: don't take into account the border size in the calculations Éric Piel
2010-08-02 16:26                           ` [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-02 17:05                             ` Henrik Rydberg [this message]
2010-08-01  7:36           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-06-21 21:07 ` [PATCH 5/7] elantech: report position also with 3 fingers Éric Piel
2010-07-21  3:38   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-30 18:37     ` Éric Piel

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