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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <me@felipebalbi.com>, Hemanth V <hemanthv@ti.com>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"igor.stoppa@nokia.com" <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>,
	"kai.svahn@nokia.com" <kai.svahn@nokia.com>,
	"matthias.nyman@nokia.com" <matthias.nyman@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: Sensors and the input layer (was Re: [RFC] [PATCH V2 1/2] input: CMA3000 Accelerometer driver)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:26:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C9CA6E9.30707@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100924130241.GB1810@ucw.cz>

On 09/24/10 14:02, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>>> So a voltmeter really makes no sense. It's not a set of keys and it
>>> doesn't give X/Y/Z style readings. Nor does a camera. But a lot of things
>>> do fit this to varying degrees.
>>>
>>> I'm actually more dubious than Linus about ALS - because ALS tends not
>>> produce 'events' but to be sampled, and there are significant power
>>> implications to unnecessary polling.
> 
> That's very similar to analog joysticks, no?
Yes, but typically much slower. Maybe a couple of times a second at most.
Some of them do support events.  The original proposal didn't include these
as no driver at the time supported them. drivers/staging/iio/light/tsl2563.c
does now though. Given the low rates, we did discuss doing this via select
on sysfs attributes (driven off underlying hardware interrupts).
> 
>>> And the more it's used the less special
>>> code is needed in user or kernel space for PDAs and phones - instead they
>>> just work.
>>
>> OK, so let's say we start moving some of the devices into input. Which
>> ones we consider suitable for input? I guess some 3-digit
>> accelerometers, what else? Also, what new event types would we need?
>> Let's take GPS - I do not think that ABS_X and ABS_Y are the best events
>> to be used for such devices: I am trying to allow applications being
> 
> I'd not put GPS into input; yes, they do present 'x,y,z' in meters,
> but that's not what users want. 'lat,lon,alt' is better, but it is
> actually 'lat,lon,herror,alt,verror,time' and a lot of other
> metadata...
> 
> Also, we already have driver for GPSes, its called gpsd. I'd leave
> GPSes out of input.
> 
>> Also, GPS, liek ALS, would probably be polling, no?
> 
> Normally, GPS just sends you position info once a second.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-24 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-21  6:52 [RFC] [PATCH V2 1/2] input: CMA3000 Accelerometer driver Hemanth V
2010-05-21 11:57 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-05-21 14:13   ` Hemanth V
2010-08-13 12:47   ` Hemanth V
2010-08-13 13:34     ` Murphy, Dan
2010-08-16  9:45       ` Hemanth V
2010-08-29 18:24       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-29 18:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-30 16:04   ` Sensors and the input layer (was Re: [RFC] [PATCH V2 1/2] input: CMA3000 Accelerometer driver) Felipe Balbi
2010-08-30 16:28     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-30 17:10       ` Felipe Balbi
2010-08-30 17:21         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-30 18:52           ` Felipe Balbi
2010-08-30 20:50             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-31  9:53               ` Alan Cox
2010-08-30 17:41         ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-08-30 20:40     ` Alan Cox
2010-08-30 20:44       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-30 21:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-30 21:43           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-30 22:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-30 22:43               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-31  5:15                 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-08-31  9:44                 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-31 12:35                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-08-31 16:17                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-31 16:59                     ` Alan Cox
2010-08-31 17:09                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-31 17:24                         ` Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar
2010-08-31 18:14                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-08-31 22:21                         ` Chris Hudson
2010-09-24 13:02                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-09-24 13:26                           ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2010-08-31 18:03                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-08-31 18:20                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-09-14  7:12                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-31  9:46             ` Alan Cox
2010-08-31 12:51               ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-08-31 18:18           ` Daniel Barkalow
2010-09-03 10:32   ` [RFC] [PATCH V2 1/2] input: CMA3000 Accelerometer driver Hemanth V
2010-09-03 16:34     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-06  9:03       ` Hemanth V

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