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From: Chase Douglas <chasedouglas@gmail.com>
To: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
Cc: Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>,
	dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Input: evdev - use monotonic clock for event timestamps
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:35:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E8C6B1F.4090904@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111005092341.GB6840@polaris.bitmath.org>

On 10/05/2011 10:23 AM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
>> I understand your concern about breaking random drivers, and am hoping
>> that someon on this list could indicate whether this is a real concern
>> or not.  To get a better feeling for possible regressions, I checked
>> xf86-input-evdev & -synaptics, and neither uses the evdev timestamp in
>> their current incarnations.  Any idea what else might be a good place
>> to check?
> 
> The input system is used for all sorts of events - switches, for
> instance. The point is that it is nearly impossible to know if
> something will break or not, hence the reluctance to modify interfaces.
> 
>> One option is to make the evdev timestamp clock source a per-driver
>> configuration option (controllable from userspace?).  This sounds like
>> it is doable, but would be significantly more complicated.
>>
>> Another option would be to timestamp with monotonicraw + boottime +
>> sleeptime.  This would be approximately wall clock time, but without
>> ntp and slew adjustments.  But, I fear this would just make the rare
>> driver issue less obvious, since it would only become obvious when the
>> two clock sources started drifting apart.
> 
> I agree, the problem is not really solvable. Dmitry?

We could put it into the -next tree early on in the cycle, and then it
will be in -next for a cycle and in Linus' tree for the real dev cycle.
By that time we would hope any issues would have emerged.

I'm not sure if that is a responsible approach. I agree that the change
would be good, but how sure would we be that nothing would break based
only on testing in development trees?

My personal thoughts are that I doubt it would cause issues. Based on
that gut feel, I would say that this approach is reasonable. However,
I'm just one voice in all this :).

-- Chase

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-05 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-03  6:43 [PATCH] Input: evdev - use monotonic clock for event timestamps Daniel Kurtz
2011-10-03  9:06 ` Henrik Rydberg
2011-10-05  7:55   ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-10-05  9:23     ` Henrik Rydberg
2011-10-05 14:35       ` Chase Douglas [this message]
2011-10-06  3:42         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-10-06  6:25           ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-10-07  6:36             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-10-07 11:05               ` Henrik Rydberg

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