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From: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, "Daniel Kurtz" <djkurtz@google.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Input: Add infrastrucutre for monotonic event time stamps.
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:52:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F0645B6.3080904@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120106004459.GA9988@core.coreip.homeip.net>

On 01/05/2012 04:44 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 04:37:00PM -0800, Chase Douglas wrote:
>> On 01/05/2012 04:19 PM, John Stultz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 15:54 -0800, Chase Douglas wrote:
>>>> On 01/05/2012 03:28 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:01:05PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> +	case EVIOCMONTIME:
>>>>>> +		if (copy_from_user(&i, p, sizeof(unsigned int)))
>>>>>> +			return -EFAULT;
>>>>>> +		client->use_monotonic = i;
>>>>>> +		return 0;
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should let users pass not boolean but CLOCK_* value (and reject
>>>>> ones that we do not support) ? This way if someone wants to use some
>>>>> other clock type in the future we won't need new ioctl.
>>>>
>>>> Could we also find a way to specify device time? Apple's Magic Mouse and
>>>> Magic Trackpad spit out events with their own timestamps. Maybe there
>>>> would be other devices that would support high accuracy timestamps too?
>>>
>>> The dynamic posix clocks stuff already supports this sort of thing for
>>> PTP, but its driver by driver, and its not all that clear that you can
>>> read the device timestamp any old time you want (I suspect they're all
>>> tied to device events). So it won't quite work for a clock_gettime()
>>> style usage.
>>>
>>> I don't really know what the best way to do this would be. We could
>>> overload a negative clockid value, since you're not going to be wanting
>>> thread cputime for device timestamps. But that's not super elegant
>>> either.
>>>
>>> But just having a specified clock id via the ioctl makes something like
>>> what you're proposing possible.  Just a matter of how to cleanly specify
>>> device timestamps against all the other possible ids.
>>
>> I guess this is mostly what I'm after right now. I have no plans on
>> implementing device timestamps, and I don't even really have time to
>> think about it much right now :). As long as we have a plan for how we
>> could specify it in the future, if someone wanted to implement it, then
>> I'm happy.
>>
> 
> I'd consider device-generated timestamps be similar to the other
> elements of input stream, like coordinates, and therefore transmitted
> via their own event type, something like EV_MSC/MSC_TIME.

I know we've talked about it before, and maybe that's the conclusion we
came to. I can't remember at this point.

Until we actually implement a solution, though, we don't really know if
either way would really work. That's why I suggest leaving our options
open by ensuring we have a way to specify device time through this
mechanism if it's reasonable.

-- Chase

      reply	other threads:[~2012-01-06  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-05 23:01 [RFC][PATCH] Input: Add infrastrucutre for monotonic event time stamps John Stultz
2012-01-05 23:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-05 23:51   ` John Stultz
2012-01-05 23:54   ` Chase Douglas
2012-01-06  0:19     ` John Stultz
2012-01-06  0:37       ` Chase Douglas
2012-01-06  0:44         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-06  0:52           ` Chase Douglas [this message]

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