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From: Nick Dyer <nick.dyer@itdev.co.uk>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	Alan.Bowens@atmel.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmeerw@pmeerw.net,
	bleung@chromium.org, olofj@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add memory access interface via sysfs
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:16:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B7151F.5070307@itdev.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130611114727.GY1403@sirena.org.uk>

Mark Brown wrote:
>> Essentially, the device is designed (and tested) on the assumption that
>> touch processing can be going on whilst various parameters are changed in a
>> live fashion. If poking around in the register map caused it to lock up or
>> behave oddly then that would be considered a firmware bug. In general it
>> will fail gracefully - for example if you write a configuration that is
>> invalid it will just stop and emit a CFGERR message.
> 
> That's not really it, it's the fact that this is being done with no
> abstraction - exposing the entire device register map directly to
> application layer so the application can totally ignore what's going on
> in the kernel doesn't seem like awesome design.

Without being able to name all of the registers (which would require a
large amount of architecture to keep up-to-date and would probably turn
into an unmaintainable mess), you can only split up the register map into
separate parts. You'd end up with binary attributes like this (refer to the
document I linked for explanation):

info_block
object_table
t5
t6
t9instance1
t9instance2
etc

Is that a nicer design from your point of view? I don't personally think
that is really gains anything functional other than making the API more
complex and increasing the number of read/write operations. I guess you
would stop bugs in user space code from accidentally writing into the wrong
object.

>> The absolute worst thing that I can think of is that you can try to beat
>> the interrupt handler to reading the "message processor" registers, which
>> would possibly leave touches stuck on screen. But even that operation is
>> useful in debugging interrupt line issues.
> 
> Well, there's also the potential issues with standard application layer
> code either not being able to do things that the hardware supports or
> getting into a fight with the magic custom stuff.

I think it's better to present a clean API cut at the right level. If you
look at the drivers in various Android trees for these maXTouch chips,
there's an awful lot of phone specific code which is not very general and
it would be impossible to mainline without having a 20,000 line driver full
of #ifdefs. Surely it's better for that to go into a userspace daemon if
possible?

>> On suspend the driver puts chip into "deep sleep" where touch acquisition
>> is halted and minimal power consumed. But it will still come out of its
>> sleep state temporarily to service I2C comms if necessary (although one
>> particular family requires that I2C retry for this case).
> 
> So these errors are just part of waking the chip up - in that case
> shouldn't the driver be waking the chip up automatically?

In the reference design for that particular model of chip (mXT1386), there
is a WAKEUP pin cross-wired to an I2C line. The only way of getting it to
wake up when it is asleep is by trying to perform an I2C operation, which
will fail, and then retrying before it times out and goes back to sleep
again. There isn't any other way of waking it up.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-11 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-05 17:36 Atmel updates to atmel_mxt_ts touch controller driver - v5 Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>, Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>, Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>, Alan.Bowens@atmel.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmeerw@pmeerw.net, bleung@chromium.org, olofj@chromium.org Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 01/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Remove unnecessary platform data Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 02/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Improve T19 GPIO keys handling Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 03/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Return IRQ_NONE when interrupt handler fails Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 04/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - define helper functions for size and instances Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 05/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Select FW_LOADER for firmware code Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:36 ` [PATCH 06/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - wait for CHG assert in mxt_check_bootloader Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 07/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - wait for CHG after bootloader resets Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 08/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Initialise IRQ before probing Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 09/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Make wait-after-reset period compatible with all chips Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 10/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add memory access interface via sysfs Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:57   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-05 18:45     ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 19:04       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-05 20:31         ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 21:07           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-05 21:36             ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 10:03               ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 10:31                 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 10:55                   ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 11:17                     ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 13:16                       ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 16:13                         ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 16:46                           ` Mark Brown
2013-06-07 15:12                             ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-07 15:41                               ` Mark Brown
2013-06-07 16:11                                 ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-07 16:47                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-06-11 10:39                                     ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-11 11:47                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-06-11 12:16                                         ` Nick Dyer [this message]
2013-06-19 18:59                                           ` Mark Brown
2013-06-21 16:16                                             ` Nick Dyer
2013-07-02 10:11                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-07-11  7:41                                                 ` Nick Dyer
2013-07-11 10:30                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06  9:48             ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 10:40               ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 10:46                 ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 11:00                   ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 11:14                     ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 11:34                       ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 13:21                         ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 18:01   ` Greg KH
2013-06-07 14:47     ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 11/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement debug output for messages Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 12/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Improve error reporting and debug Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 13/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement CRC check for configuration data Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 14/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Download device config using firmware loader Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 15/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Calculate and check CRC in config file Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 16/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add additional bootloader addresses Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 17/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Read and report bootloader version Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 18/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement bootloader frame retries Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 19/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Improve bootloader progress output Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 20/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add check for incorrect firmware file format Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 21/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Read screen config from chip Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 22/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Set default irqflags when there is no pdata Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 23/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Use deep sleep mode when stopped Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 24/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add shutdown function Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 25/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Rename pressure to amplitude to match spec Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 26/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Rename touchscreen defines to include T9 Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 27/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle multiple input reports in one message Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 28/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Move input device init into separate function Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 29/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle APP_CRC_FAIL on startup Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 30/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle bootloader previously unlocked Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 31/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add bootloader addresses for new chips Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 32/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Recover from bootloader on probe Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 33/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add support for dynamic message size Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 34/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Decode T6 status messages Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 35/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Split message handler into separate functions Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 36/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement T44 message handling Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 37/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Output status from T48 Noise Supression Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 38/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Output status from T42 Touch Suppression Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 39/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement vector/orientation support Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 40/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - implement I2C retries Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 41/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement T63 Active Stylus support Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 42/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement support for T15 Key Array Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 43/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Remove unused defines Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 44/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Verify Information Block checksum on probe Nick Dyer
2013-06-07 18:37   ` Yufeng Shen
2013-06-10  9:35     ` Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 45/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Use T18 RETRIGEN to handle IRQF_TRIGGER_LOW Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 46/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle reports from T47 Stylus object Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 47/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Release touch state during suspend Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 48/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Initialize power config before and after downloading cfg Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 49/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Add regulator control support Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 50/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Implement support for T100 touch object Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 51/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Allow specification of firmware file name Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 52/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Handle cfg filename via pdata/sysfs Nick Dyer
2013-06-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 53/53] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - Only use first T9 instance Nick Dyer
2013-06-06 19:18 ` Atmel updates to atmel_mxt_ts touch controller driver - v5 Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>, Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>, Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>, Alan.Bowens@atmel.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmeerw@pmeerw.net, bleung@chromium.org, olofj@chromium.org Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]   ` <CAPDwgkPdtj0Th8P+y9e5O7swARfzS40sG1A3Ba=pAmeXfMx0Dw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-06 19:46     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2013-06-07 20:21       ` Yufeng Shen

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