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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Hans Verkuil <hansverk@cisco.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	thomas@tommie-lie.de, sean@mess.org, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	lars@opdenkamp.eu, kamil@wypas.org,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv9 06/15] rc: Add HDMI CEC protocol handling
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:12:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <561E005F.40407@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151013230957.GN32532@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 10/14/2015 01:09 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 01:50:47PM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> On 10/06/2015 08:05 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 03:44:35PM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>>> From: Kamil Debski <kamil@wypas.org>
>>>>
>>>> Add handling of remote control events coming from the HDMI CEC bus.
>>>> This patch includes a new keymap that maps values found in the CEC
>>>> messages to the keys pressed and released. Also, a new protocol has
>>>> been added to the core.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Kamil Debski <kamil@wypas.org>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
>>>
>>> (Added Mauro)
>>>
>>> Hmm, how is rc-cec supposed to be loaded?
>>
>> Is CONFIG_RC_MAP enabled in your config? Ran 'depmod -a'? (Sorry, I'm sure you've done
>> that, just checking...)
> 
> CONFIG_RC_MAP=m
> 
> and yes, if depmod hadn't have been run, modprobing rc-cec would not
> have worked - modprobe always looks up in the depmod information to
> find out where the module is located, and also to determine any
> dependencies.
> 
>> It's optional as I understand it, since you could configure the keytable from
>> userspace instead of using this module.
>>
>> For the record (just tried it), it does load fine on my setup.
> 
> Immediately after boot, I have:
> 
> # lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> ...
> coda                   54685  0
> v4l2_mem2mem           14517  1 coda
> videobuf2_dma_contig     9478  1 coda
> videobuf2_vmalloc       5529  1 coda
> videobuf2_memops        1888  2 videobuf2_dma_contig,videobuf2_vmalloc
> cecd_dw_hdmi            3129  0
> # modprobe rc-cec
> # lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> rc_cec                  1785  0
> ...
> coda                   54685  0
> v4l2_mem2mem           14517  1 coda
> videobuf2_dma_contig     9478  1 coda
> videobuf2_vmalloc       5529  1 coda
> videobuf2_memops        1888  2 videobuf2_dma_contig,videobuf2_vmalloc
> cecd_dw_hdmi            3129  0
> 
> So, rc-cec is perfectly loadable, it just doesn't get loaded at boot.
> Manually loading it like this is useless though - I have to unload
> cecd_dw_hdmi and then re-load it after rc-cec is loaded for rc-cec to
> be seen.  At that point, (and with the help of a userspace program)
> things start working as expected.

Did you compile and install the v4l-utils found here:

http://git.linuxtv.org/cgit.cgi/hverkuil/v4l-utils.git/log/?h=cec

I think that the rc_cec module is loaded through some udev rules and
keytables that are installed by v4l-utils. The standard v4l-utils
doesn't know about cec, but my repo above does.

To be honest, I don't really understand how it works, but if you haven't
installed it yet then try it and see if that solves the problem.

>> BTW, I am still on the fence whether using the kernel RC subsystem is
>> the right thing to do. There are a number of CEC RC commands that use
>> extra parameters that cannot be mapped to the RC API, so you still
>> need to handle those manually.
> 
> Even though it is a remote control which is being forwarded for the
> most part, but there are operation codes which aren't related to
> key presses specified by the standard.  I don't think there's anything
> wrong with having a RC interface present, but allowing other interfaces
> as a possibility is a good thing too - it allows a certain amount of
> flexibility.
> 
> For example, with rc-cec loaded and properly bound, I can control at
> least rhythmbox within gnome using the TVs remote control with no
> modifications - and that happens because the X server passes on the
> events it receives via the event device.
> 
> Given the range of media applications, I think that's key - it needs
> to at least have the capability to plug into the existing ways of doing
> things, even if those ways are not perfect.
> 
>> Perhaps I should split it off into a separate patch and keep it out
>> from the initial pull request once we're ready for that.
> 
> I'm biased because it is an enablement feature - it allows CEC to work
> out of the box with at least some existing media apps. :)
> 

OK, useful feedback. I am considering putting the RC code under a kernel
config option though. So if the RC core is not enabled or you don't want
the RC part to be created, then you can opt to disable it.

Regards,

	Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-14  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-07 13:44 [PATCHv9 00/15] HDMI CEC framework Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 01/15] dts: exynos4*: add HDMI CEC pin definition to pinctrl Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 02/15] dts: exynos4: add node for the HDMI CEC device Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 03/15] dts: exynos4412-odroid*: enable " Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 04/15] input.h: add BUS_CEC type Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 05/15] HID: add HDMI CEC specific keycodes Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 06/15] rc: Add HDMI CEC protocol handling Hans Verkuil
2015-10-06 18:05   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-12 11:50     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-10-13 23:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-14  7:12         ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2015-10-15  7:31       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 07/15] cec: add HDMI CEC framework Hans Verkuil
2015-10-06 17:06   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-12 11:35     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-10-13 22:51       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-14  6:29         ` Hans Verkuil
2015-10-15 17:34           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-15 17:45             ` Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 08/15] cec.txt: add CEC framework documentation Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 09/15] DocBook/media: add CEC documentation Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 10/15] v4l2-subdev: add HDMI CEC ops Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 11/15] cec: adv7604: add cec support Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 12/15] cec: adv7842: " Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 13/15] cec: adv7511: " Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 14/15] cec: s5p-cec: Add s5p-cec driver Hans Verkuil
2015-10-05 22:32   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-12 10:50     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-10-12 12:33       ` Kamil Debski
2015-10-12 12:39         ` Hans Verkuil
2015-10-12 12:44           ` Kamil Debski
2015-10-13 23:26           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-05 23:11   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-12 10:54     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-09-07 13:44 ` [PATCHv9 15/15] cobalt: add cec support Hans Verkuil

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