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[2001:1c00:c1e:bf00:1054:9d19:e0f0:8214]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z18sm2941088edq.29.2021.09.23.02.00.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Sep 2021 02:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Touchpad stickiness on Dell Inspiron/XPS To: Andrea Ippolito , dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, Alex Hung Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org References: From: Hans de Goede Message-ID: <70cbe360-6385-2536-32bd-ae803517d2b2@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 11:00:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-input@vger.kernel.org Hi Andrea, On 9/23/21 10:47 AM, Andrea Ippolito wrote: > Hello, > > has anyone had a chance to have a look at this report, and can help > making some progress on the investigation? > > Please let me know if there are more suitable channels for this, since > most of the things I see in these mailing lists are patches and code > reviews, not really reports and discussions around ongoing issues. Right, bugs are usually discussed in bugzila, you could consider filing a bug here: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Drivers But I must be honest here, I don't see much progress being made on this until someone with a significant amount of kernel / hw-enablement experience gets it hands on one of these models. Either because some company wants to run Linux on an affected model and ends up paying someone to look at this, or because someone with the necessary skills happens to buy one and then gets annoyed enough by this to sink enough time into the issue to figure things out. This hw is still relatively new, so with some luck someone accidentally fixes this while fixing another issue, which happens to have the same root cause. Short of one of these 2 happening I don't see this getting resolved anytime soon. By all means, do file a bug for this, I just want to set expectations about the (un)likelyness of this getting fixed (or the bug getting much attention in general) beforehand. Regards, Hans > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Regards, > Andrea IPPOLITO > > Il giorno ven 27 ago 2021 alle ore 08:57 Andrea Ippolito > ha scritto: >> >> (resending as plain text) >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I hope I find you well. >> >> I am writing this to report a touchpad issue faced by me and several >> other DELL users across several different distros (HW defect has been >> ruled out by people unable to reproduce on Windows). >> >> First thing that came to mind was to report this to the libinput >> project, which I did here: >> >> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libinput/libinput/-/issues/618 >> >> A similar report by another user followed shortly after: >> >> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libinput/libinput/-/issues/636 (will be >> closed as dupe eventually, so please keep #618 as reference) >> >> Issue has been also reported by yet another user on reddit: >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/ofbzg3/dell_xps_15_9510_experience/h5ddy07/ >> and https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/ofbzg3/dell_xps_15_9510_experience/h5zjwc8/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 >> >> And finally, I have reported it on the DELL user forums (no help >> whatsoever from DELL): >> >> https://www.dell.com/community/Inspiron/Tiger-Lake-DELL-Inspiron-Touchpad-Cursor-temporarily-drops/m-p/8021753#M126292 >> >> The investigation on the libinput side appears to be complete, as >> maintainers didn't spot anything weird there (also, the issue is also >> reproducible with the synaptics lib, suggesting that this might be >> lower level). >> >> Robert Martin suggested to raise this to you now, as per comment: >> >> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libinput/libinput/-/issues/618#note_1042277 >> >> I'm kind of new to Linux mailing lists and bug reporting, so please >> forgive me if I'm violating some rules or etiquette, I'd be glad to >> rectify if that's the case. >> >> I also don't know what is the best way to keep the conversation going, >> e.g. if there's an issue tracker or instead mailing lists are the >> preferred choice. >> >> You should find some interesting data in the above mentioned reports >> already, if not, please don't hesitate to let me know or chime in on >> libinput issue #618 directly. >> >> Thanks a lot in advance. >> >> Kind regards, >> Andrea IPPOLITO >