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From: "David Rheinsberg" <david@readahead.eu>
To: "Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Justin Stitt" <justinstitt@google.com>,
	"Jiri Kosina" <jikos@kernel.org>,
	"Benjamin Tissoires" <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	"David Herrmann" <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] HID: uhid: refactor deprecated strncpy
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 09:37:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72b7c13a-5f82-498b-84a3-b6e9b61c0e3a@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202309151342.DFA6CA5C7@keescook>

Hey

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023, at 10:48 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 09:36:23AM +0200, David Rheinsberg wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Kees Cook wrote:
>> >> -	/* @hid is zero-initialized, strncpy() is correct, strlcpy() not */
>> >> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name)) - 1;
>> >> -	strncpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
>> >> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys)) - 1;
>> >> -	strncpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
>> >> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq)) - 1;
>> >> -	strncpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
>> >
>> > ev->u.create2 is:
>> > struct uhid_create2_req {
>> >         __u8 name[128];
>> >         __u8 phys[64];
>> >         __u8 uniq[64];
>> > 	...
>> >
>> > hid is:
>> > struct hid_device { /* device report descriptor */
>> > 	...
>> >         char name[128]; /* Device name */
>> >         char phys[64]; /* Device physical location */
>> >         char uniq[64]; /* Device unique identifier (serial #) */
>> >
>> > So these "min" calls are redundant -- it wants to copy at most 1 less so
>> > it can be %NUL terminated. Which is what strscpy() already does. And
>> > source and dest are the same size, so we can't over-read source if it
>> > weren't terminated (since strscpy won't overread like strlcpy).
>> 
>> I *really* think we should keep the `min` calls. The compiler
>> should already optimize them away, as both arguments are compile-time
>> constants. There is no inherent reason why source and target are equal in
>> size. Yes, it is unlikely to change, but I don't understand why we would
>> want to implicitly rely on it, rather than make the compiler verify it for
>> us. And `struct hid_device` is very much allowed to change in the future.
>> 
>> As an alternative, you can use BUILD_BUG_ON() and verify both are equal in length.
>
> If we can't depend on ev->u.create2.name/phys/uniq being %NUL-terminated,
> we've already done the "min" calculations, and we've already got the
> dest zeroed, then I suspect the thing to do is just use memcpy instead
> of strncpy (or strscpy).

If you use memcpy, you might copy garbage trailing the terminating zero. This is not particularly wrong, but also not really nice if user-space relies on the kernel to treat it as a string. You don't know whether a query of the string returns trailing bytes, and thus might expose data that user-space did not intend to share.

I mean, this is why the code uses strncpy().

Thanks
David

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-18  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14 22:47 [PATCH] HID: uhid: refactor deprecated strncpy Justin Stitt
2023-09-15  5:13 ` Kees Cook
2023-09-15  7:36   ` David Rheinsberg
2023-09-15 20:48     ` Kees Cook
2023-09-18  7:37       ` David Rheinsberg [this message]
2023-09-29 18:52         ` Kees Cook

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