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From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
Cc: platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	 LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	 Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>,
	 Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>,
	 "Luke D . Jones" <luke@ljones.dev>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	 Denis Benato <benato.denis96@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Add support for multiple kbd RGB handlers
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:38:09 +0300 (EEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75807bcc-2b51-4b34-5173-433f3aedae76@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGwozwEo+Mx8fv_ohQQ9Ha6p=bJcJmfj==aRGcgoqQXzXEZmVw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 16 Oct 2025, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 at 12:19, Ilpo Järvinen
> <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 at 13:59, Ilpo Järvinen
> > > <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2025, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Some devices, such as the Z13 have multiple AURA devices connected
> > > > > to them by USB. In addition, they might have a WMI interface for
> > > > > RGB. In Windows, Armoury Crate exposes a unified brightness slider
> > > > > for all of them, with 3 brightness levels.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, to be synergistic in Linux, and support existing tooling
> > > > > such as UPower, allow adding listeners to the RGB device of the WMI
> > > > > interface. If WMI does not exist, lazy initialize the interface.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Luke D. Jones <luke@ljones.dev>
> > > > > Tested-by: Luke D. Jones <luke@ljones.dev>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  drivers/platform/x86/asus-wmi.c            | 118 ++++++++++++++++++---
> > > > >  include/linux/platform_data/x86/asus-wmi.h |  16 +++
> > > > >  2 files changed, 121 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/platform/x86/asus-wmi.c b/drivers/platform/x86/asus-wmi.c
> > > > > index e72a2b5d158e..a2a7cd61fd59 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/platform/x86/asus-wmi.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/platform/x86/asus-wmi.c
> > > > > @@ -258,6 +258,8 @@ struct asus_wmi {
> > > > >       int tpd_led_wk;
> > > > >       struct led_classdev kbd_led;
> > > > >       int kbd_led_wk;
> > > > > +     bool kbd_led_avail;
> > > > > +     bool kbd_led_registered;
> > > > >       struct led_classdev lightbar_led;
> > > > >       int lightbar_led_wk;
> > > > >       struct led_classdev micmute_led;
> > > > > @@ -1530,6 +1532,53 @@ static void asus_wmi_battery_exit(struct asus_wmi *asus)
> > > > >
> > > > >  /* LEDs ***********************************************************************/
> > > > >
> > > > > +struct asus_hid_ref {
> > > > > +     struct list_head listeners;
> > > > > +     struct asus_wmi *asus;
> > > > > +     spinlock_t lock;
> > > >
> > > > Please always document what a lock protects.
> > > >
> > > > I started wonder why it needs to be spinlock?
> > > >
> > > > It would seem rwsem is more natural for it as write is only needed at
> > > > probe/remove time (if there's no good reason for using a spinlock).
> > > >
> > > > You're also missing include.
> > >
> > > I went through the comments. Thanks. The reason that it is a spinlock
> > > is that both hid-asus and asus-wmi interact with the primitives to
> > > register and unregister listeners, either of which can prompt the
> > > creation of the led device which has to be atomic. And they do so from
> > > IRQs too.
> >
> > Please note in the changelog how it can happen from IRQs as I tried but
> > couldn't find anything. Admittedly, I didn't try to follow the callchains
> > that deeply. The justification should be clear enough to anyone who
> > looks this commit later so better have it in the changelog.
> 
> The initial versions used a mutex, and we found kernel hangs under
> IRQs, so it was converted to a spinlock. I will try to reword.
> Specifically, I think the errors came when holding the lock when
> changing brightness.
> 
> I recall one of them was brightness hotkey (second to last patch)
> triggers an IRQ -> event goes to asus-wmi -> calls brightness handler
> -> tries to hold lock -> crashes. Lock needs to be held because
> hid-asus can choose to unregister a listener.

If you're not certain and want an easy way to obtain a stacktrace to 
confirm, you can likely do something like:

	WARN_ON_ONCE(in_atomic());

...at where you are taking the lock.

-- 
 i.

> > > Perhaps the driver could be refactored to use rwsem, I am not sure.
> >
> > Just leave it spinlock.
> >
> > > The fixed version can be found here[1]. I will give it 1-2 more days
> > > in case someone else wants to chime in and resend.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  i.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-16 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-13 20:15 [PATCH v6 0/7] HID: asus: Fix ASUS ROG Laptop's Keyboard backlight handling Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] HID: asus: refactor init sequence per spec Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 10:53   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-15 11:18     ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 11:30       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] HID: asus: prevent binding to all HID devices on ROG Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 10:59   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Add support for multiple kbd RGB handlers Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 11:59   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-15 15:45     ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 10:18       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-16 10:23         ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 10:38           ` Ilpo Järvinen [this message]
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] HID: asus: listen to the asus-wmi brightness device instead of creating one Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 21:44   ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 21:57     ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 22:06       ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 22:18         ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 22:50           ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: remove unused keyboard backlight quirk Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: add keyboard brightness event handler Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 12:18   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-15 15:38     ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] HID: asus: add support for the asus-wmi brightness handler Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 21:37   ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 21:36 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] HID: asus: Fix ASUS ROG Laptop's Keyboard backlight handling Denis Benato
2025-10-13 21:45   ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 11:57 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 12:14   ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 12:19     ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 12:28       ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 12:46         ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 12:51           ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 14:32             ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 14:44               ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 14:44                 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 15:16                 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 15:08     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-16 16:16       ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-17  7:54         ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-17 11:00           ` Denis Benato
2025-10-17 11:21             ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-20 17:13           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-20 18:54             ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-17 10:36         ` Ilpo Järvinen

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