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From: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
To: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
	hdegoede@redhat.com, ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com,
	bentiss@kernel.org
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, jelle@vdwaa.nl,
	jikos@kernel.org, lee@kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com, ojeda@kernel.org,
	onitake@gmail.com, pavel@ucw.cz, cs@tuxedo.de,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 20:49:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86b53680-b10d-406f-b66c-76c2f89d1acc@tuxedocomputers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa91e17f-0ea8-4645-a0f9-57c016e36a9e@gmx.de>

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Am 01.02.25 um 05:39 schrieb Armin Wolf:
> Am 21.01.25 um 23:31 schrieb Werner Sembach:
>
>> Hi,
>> after some other work, picked this up again.
>> Only coding style changes vs v4.
>>
>>
>> I now got my feet a little wet with hid-bpf regarding something else, and
>> with that knowledge I would leave the long arrays in the beginning in the
>> kernel code for the time being:
>>
>> sirius_16_ansii_kbl_mapping and sirius_16_iso_kbl_mapping are required
>> during initialization so they have to exist in the kernel code anyway.
>>
>> report_descriptor will most likly not change even for future models and
>> afaik having report_descriptors in kernel drivers is not unheard of.
>>
>> So the only things that could be meaningfully moved to a hid-bpf program
>> are the sirius_16_*_kbl_mapping_pos_* arrays. But for these is have to give
>> out some fallback value anyway for the case where a hid-bpf file is missing
>> or fails to load. So why not use real world values from my test device for
>> these values?
>>
>> As soon as there is a future device that can use the same driver with just
>> these pos arrays different, then I would implement that change via a bpf
>> program instead of a change to the kernel driver.
>>
>> Let me know if you too think this is a sensefull approach?
>>
>>
>> Another question: Would this patch need to wait for a userspace
>> implementation of lamp array before it can get accepted?
>
> It would be nice if you could test the LampArray implementation. But other 
> than that
> userspace can catch up later.
I tested with the attached programs (I directly edited the source files to test 
different things, this is just a snapshot).
>
> Still, i am interested in the opinion of the LED maintainers regarding the 
> fake HID interface.
>
> Thanks,
> Armin Wolf
>
>>
>> The folder structure and naming scheme with nb04 is im preparation for
>> other parts of tuxedo-drivers to be upstreamed. NB04 is one of the
>> board_vendor dmi strings on TUXEDO devices that aligns with which part of
>> tuxedo-drivers implements the features of that device. They are independent
>> of each other so I plan to put them in different subfolders to reflect
>> that.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Werner Sembach
>>
>> Werner Sembach (1):
>>    platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices
>>
>>   MAINTAINERS                                   |   6 +
>>   drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig                  |   2 +
>>   drivers/platform/x86/Makefile                 |   3 +
>>   drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/Kbuild            |   6 +
>>   drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/Kconfig           |   6 +
>>   drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/Kbuild       |   9 +
>>   drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/Kconfig      |  14 +
>>   .../platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_init.c    | 103 +++
>>   .../platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_init.h    |  18 +
>>   .../x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_virt_lamparray.c   | 772 ++++++++++++++++++
>>   .../x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_virt_lamparray.h   |  18 +
>>   .../platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_xx_util.c    |  97 +++
>>   .../platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_xx_util.h    | 112 +++
>>   13 files changed, 1166 insertions(+)
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/Kbuild
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/Kconfig
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/Kbuild
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/Kconfig
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_init.c
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_init.h
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_virt_lamparray.c
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_ab_virt_lamparray.h
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_xx_util.c
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/platform/x86/tuxedo/nb04/wmi_xx_util.h
>>

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cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.5)

project(LampArrayPlayground)

add_executable(lap lap.cpp)
target_compile_features(lap PRIVATE cxx_std_17)

add_executable(laploop laploop.cpp)
target_compile_features(laploop PRIVATE cxx_std_17)

add_executable(laploopsingle laploopsingle.cpp)
target_compile_features(laploopsingle PRIVATE cxx_std_17)

[-- Attachment #3: lap.cpp --]
[-- Type: text/x-c++src, Size: 7559 bytes --]

#include <iostream>
#include <iomanip>

#include <fcntl.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <linux/hidraw.h>
#include <cstdlib>
#include <cstdint>

using std::cout, std::cerr, std::endl, std::hex, std::setw, std::setfill, std::ios;

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_array_attributes_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 1;
    uint16_t lamp_count;
    uint32_t bounding_box_width_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t bounding_box_height_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t bounding_box_depth_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t lamp_array_kind;
    uint32_t min_update_interval_in_microseconds;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_attributes_request_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 2;
    uint16_t lamp_id;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_attributes_response_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 3;
    uint16_t lamp_id;
    uint32_t position_x_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t position_y_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t position_z_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t update_latency_in_microseconds;
    uint32_t lamp_purpose;
    uint8_t red_level_count;
    uint8_t green_level_count;
    uint8_t blue_level_count;
    uint8_t intensity_level_count;
    uint8_t is_programmable;
    uint8_t input_binding;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_multi_update_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 4;
    uint8_t lamp_count;
    uint8_t lamp_update_flags;
    uint16_t lamp_id[8];
    struct {
        uint8_t red_update_channel;
        uint8_t green_update_channel;
        uint8_t blue_update_channel;
        uint8_t intensity_update_channel;
    } update_channels[8];
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_range_update_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 5;
    uint8_t lamp_update_flags;
    uint16_t lamp_id_start;
    uint16_t lamp_id_end;
    uint8_t red_update_channel;
    uint8_t green_update_channel;
    uint8_t blue_update_channel;
    uint8_t intensity_update_channel;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_array_control_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 6;
    uint8_t autonomous_mode;
};

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
    if (argc < 2) {
        cout << "Usage: " << argv[0] << "<hidraw_path>" << endl;
        return EXIT_SUCCESS;
    }

    int hidraw = open(argv[1], O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK);
    if (hidraw < 0) {
        cerr << "main: open(\"" << argv[1] << "\", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) failed." << endl;
        return hidraw;
    }

    struct hidraw_report_descriptor report_descriptor;

    int result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCGRDESCSIZE, &report_descriptor.size);
    if (result < 0) {
        cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCGRDESCSIZE, &report_descriptor.size) failed." << endl;
        close(hidraw);
        return result;
    }

    result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCGRDESC, &report_descriptor);
    if (result < 0) {
        cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCGRDESC, &report_descriptor) failed." << endl;
        close(hidraw);
        return result;
    }

    ios default_cout_state(nullptr);
    default_cout_state.copyfmt(cout);

    cout << "Report descriptor:" << endl;
    cout << hex << setfill('0');
    for (int i = 0; i < report_descriptor.size; ++i) {
        if (i % 8 != 7 && i != report_descriptor.size - 1) {
            cout << setw(2) << (int)report_descriptor.value[i] << " ";
        }
        else {
            cout << setw(2) << (int)report_descriptor.value[i] << endl;
        }
    }
    cout << endl;
    cout.copyfmt(default_cout_state);

    struct lamp_array_attributes_report lamp_array_attributes_report;
    result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCGFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_array_attributes_report)), &lamp_array_attributes_report);
    if (result < 0) {
        cerr << "ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCGFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_array_attributes_report)) failed." << endl;
        close(hidraw);
        return result;
    }

    cout << "lamp count: " << lamp_array_attributes_report.lamp_count << endl;
    cout << "bounding box depth: " <<  lamp_array_attributes_report.bounding_box_depth_in_micrometers << endl;
    cout << "bounding box height: " <<  lamp_array_attributes_report.bounding_box_height_in_micrometers << endl;
    cout << "bounding box width: " <<  lamp_array_attributes_report.bounding_box_width_in_micrometers << endl;
    cout << endl;

    cout << "Attributes Report:" << endl;
    cout << hex << setfill('0');
    for (int i = 0; i < sizeof(struct lamp_array_attributes_report); ++i) {
        if (i % 8 != 7 && i != sizeof(struct lamp_array_attributes_report) - 1) {
            cout << setw(2) << (int)((uint8_t *)&lamp_array_attributes_report)[i] << " ";
        }
        else {
            cout << setw(2) << (int)((uint8_t *)&lamp_array_attributes_report)[i] << endl;
        }
    }
    cout.copyfmt(default_cout_state);

    struct lamp_array_control_report lamp_array_control_report;
    lamp_array_control_report.autonomous_mode = 0;
    result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_array_control_report)), &lamp_array_control_report);
    if (result < 0) {
        cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_array_control_report)), lamp_array_control_report) failed." << endl;
        close(hidraw);
        return result;
    }

    struct lamp_range_update_report lamp_range_update_report;
    lamp_range_update_report.red_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_range_update_report.green_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_range_update_report.blue_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_range_update_report.intensity_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_range_update_report.lamp_update_flags = 0x01;
    lamp_range_update_report.lamp_id_start = 0;
    lamp_range_update_report.lamp_id_end = lamp_array_attributes_report.lamp_count - 1;
    result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), &lamp_range_update_report);
    if (result < 0) {
        cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), lamp_range_update_report) failed." << endl;
        close(hidraw);
        return result;
    }

    struct lamp_multi_update_report lamp_multi_update_report;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_count = 3;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_id[0] = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].red_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].green_update_channel = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].blue_update_channel = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].intensity_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_id[1] = 1;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[1].red_update_channel = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[1].green_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[1].blue_update_channel = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[1].intensity_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_id[2] = 2;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[2].red_update_channel = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[2].green_update_channel = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[2].blue_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[2].intensity_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_update_flags = 0x01;
    result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), &lamp_multi_update_report);
    if (result < 0) {
        cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), lamp_multi_update_report) failed." << endl;
        close(hidraw);
        return result;
    }

    close(hidraw);

    return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}

[-- Attachment #4: laploop.cpp --]
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#include <iostream>
#include <iomanip>

#include <fcntl.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <linux/hidraw.h>
#include <cstdlib>
#include <cstdint>

using std::cout, std::cerr, std::endl, std::hex, std::setw, std::setfill, std::ios;

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_array_attributes_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 1;
    uint16_t lamp_count;
    uint32_t bounding_box_width_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t bounding_box_height_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t bounding_box_depth_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t lamp_array_kind;
    uint32_t min_update_interval_in_microseconds;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_attributes_request_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 2;
    uint16_t lamp_id;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_attributes_response_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 3;
    uint16_t lamp_id;
    uint32_t position_x_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t position_y_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t position_z_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t update_latency_in_microseconds;
    uint32_t lamp_purpose;
    uint8_t red_level_count;
    uint8_t green_level_count;
    uint8_t blue_level_count;
    uint8_t intensity_level_count;
    uint8_t is_programmable;
    uint8_t input_binding;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_multi_update_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 4;
    uint8_t lamp_count;
    uint8_t lamp_update_flags;
    uint16_t lamp_id[8];
    struct {
        uint8_t red_update_channel;
        uint8_t green_update_channel;
        uint8_t blue_update_channel;
        uint8_t intensity_update_channel;
    } update_channels[8];
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_range_update_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 5;
    uint8_t lamp_update_flags;
    uint16_t lamp_id_start;
    uint16_t lamp_id_end;
    uint8_t red_update_channel;
    uint8_t green_update_channel;
    uint8_t blue_update_channel;
    uint8_t intensity_update_channel;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_array_control_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 6;
    uint8_t autonomous_mode;
};

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
    if (argc < 2) {
        cout << "Usage: " << argv[0] << "<hidraw_path>" << endl;
        return EXIT_SUCCESS;
    }

    int hidraw = open(argv[1], O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK);
    if (hidraw < 0) {
        cerr << "main: open(\"" << argv[1] << "\", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) failed." << endl;
        return hidraw;
    }

    int result = 0;

    struct lamp_range_update_report lamp_range_update_report;
    lamp_range_update_report.intensity_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_range_update_report.lamp_update_flags = 0x01;
    lamp_range_update_report.lamp_id_start = 0;
    lamp_range_update_report.lamp_id_end = 101;

    while (true) {
        lamp_range_update_report.red_update_channel = 0xff;
        lamp_range_update_report.green_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_range_update_report.blue_update_channel = 0;
        result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), &lamp_range_update_report);
        if (result < 0) {
            cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), lamp_range_update_report) failed." << endl;
            close(hidraw);
            return result;
        }

        lamp_range_update_report.red_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_range_update_report.green_update_channel = 0xff;
        lamp_range_update_report.blue_update_channel = 0;
        result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), &lamp_range_update_report);
        if (result < 0) {
            cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), lamp_range_update_report) failed." << endl;
            close(hidraw);
            return result;
        }

        lamp_range_update_report.red_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_range_update_report.green_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_range_update_report.blue_update_channel = 0xff;
        result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), &lamp_range_update_report);
        if (result < 0) {
            cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_range_update_report)), lamp_range_update_report) failed." << endl;
            close(hidraw);
            return result;
        }
    }

    close(hidraw);

    return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}

[-- Attachment #5: laploopsingle.cpp --]
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#include <iostream>
#include <iomanip>

#include <fcntl.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <linux/hidraw.h>
#include <cstdlib>
#include <cstdint>

using std::cout, std::cerr, std::endl, std::hex, std::setw, std::setfill, std::ios;

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_array_attributes_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 1;
    uint16_t lamp_count;
    uint32_t bounding_box_width_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t bounding_box_height_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t bounding_box_depth_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t lamp_array_kind;
    uint32_t min_update_interval_in_microseconds;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_attributes_request_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 2;
    uint16_t lamp_id;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_attributes_response_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 3;
    uint16_t lamp_id;
    uint32_t position_x_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t position_y_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t position_z_in_micrometers;
    uint32_t update_latency_in_microseconds;
    uint32_t lamp_purpose;
    uint8_t red_level_count;
    uint8_t green_level_count;
    uint8_t blue_level_count;
    uint8_t intensity_level_count;
    uint8_t is_programmable;
    uint8_t input_binding;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_multi_update_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 4;
    uint8_t lamp_count;
    uint8_t lamp_update_flags;
    uint16_t lamp_id[8];
    struct {
        uint8_t red_update_channel;
        uint8_t green_update_channel;
        uint8_t blue_update_channel;
        uint8_t intensity_update_channel;
    } update_channels[8];
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_range_update_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 5;
    uint8_t lamp_update_flags;
    uint16_t lamp_id_start;
    uint16_t lamp_id_end;
    uint8_t red_update_channel;
    uint8_t green_update_channel;
    uint8_t blue_update_channel;
    uint8_t intensity_update_channel;
};

struct __attribute__ ((packed)) lamp_array_control_report {
    const uint8_t report_id = 6;
    uint8_t autonomous_mode;
};

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
    if (argc < 2) {
        cout << "Usage: " << argv[0] << "<hidraw_path>" << endl;
        return EXIT_SUCCESS;
    }

    int hidraw = open(argv[1], O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK);
    if (hidraw < 0) {
        cerr << "main: open(\"" << argv[1] << "\", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) failed." << endl;
        return hidraw;
    }

    int result = 0;

    struct lamp_multi_update_report lamp_multi_update_report;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_count = 1;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_id[0] = 0;
    lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].intensity_update_channel = 0xff;
    lamp_multi_update_report.lamp_update_flags = 0x01;

    while (true) {
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].red_update_channel = 0xff;
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].green_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].blue_update_channel = 0;
        result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), &lamp_multi_update_report);
        if (result < 0) {
            cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), lamp_multi_update_report) failed." << endl;
            close(hidraw);
            return result;
        }

        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].red_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].green_update_channel = 0xff;
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].blue_update_channel = 0;
        result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), &lamp_multi_update_report);
        if (result < 0) {
            cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), lamp_multi_update_report) failed." << endl;
            close(hidraw);
            return result;
        }

        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].red_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].green_update_channel = 0;
        lamp_multi_update_report.update_channels[0].blue_update_channel = 0xff;
        result = ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), &lamp_multi_update_report);
        if (result < 0) {
            cerr << "main: ioctl(hidraw, HIDIOCSFEATURE(sizeof(struct lamp_multi_update_report)), lamp_multi_update_report) failed." << endl;
            close(hidraw);
            return result;
        }
    }

    close(hidraw);

    return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}

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2025-01-21 22:31 [PATCH v5 0/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices Werner Sembach
2025-01-21 22:31 ` [PATCH v5 1/1] " Werner Sembach
2025-02-01  4:39 ` [PATCH v5 0/1] " Armin Wolf
2025-02-01  8:48   ` Pavel Machek
2025-02-06 16:18     ` Werner Sembach
2025-02-21 11:39       ` Werner Sembach
2025-03-14 21:06       ` Pavel Machek
2025-02-01 19:49   ` Werner Sembach [this message]

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