From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
Cc: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v30 28/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Add USB offload route kcontrol
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:52:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wmg732gy.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b77ad01-9621-4d2e-84c0-077032fbc5ef@intel.com>
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:24:30 +0100,
Cezary Rojewski wrote:
>
> On 2024-12-06 9:43 PM, Wesley Cheng wrote:
> >
> > On 12/6/2024 1:09 AM, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >>>>> +#include <linux/usb.h>
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +#include <sound/core.h>
> >>>>> +#include <sound/control.h>
> >>>>> +#include <sound/soc-usb.h>
> >>>>
> >>>> ALSA-components should not be dependent on ASoC ones. It should be done the other way around: ALSA <- ASoC.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> At least for this kcontrol, we need to know the status of the ASoC state, so that we can communicate the proper path to userspace. If the ASoC path is not probed or ready, then this module isn't blocked. It will just communicate that there isn't a valid offload path.
> >>
> >> I'm not asking _why_ you need soc-usb.h header, your reasoning is probably perfectly fine. The code hierarchy is not though. If a sound module is dependent on soc-xxx.h i.e. ASoC symbols, it shall be part of sound/soc/ space.
> >
> >
> > That would basically require a significant change in the current design. Was that requirement documented somewhere, where ALSA components should not be dependent on ASoC? What was the reasoning for making it one direction, but not the other?
>
> Well, some may call this a common sense. ASoC is founded on
> ALSA. There are no ALSA-core components which I'm aware of which have
> a dependency on ASoC components. You may not get compilation problems
> now, but such approach does not scale and will hit circular dependency
> problem sooner or later.
In this particular case, I guess we don't have to be too strict.
As long as it's a dynamic add-on, there is less dependency problem.
OTOH, if it were linked directly, that can cause an issue, though.
But, which code is put at which place can be reconsidered, yes. The
right placing may help better understanding of the code, too.
thanks,
Takashi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-10 16:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-06 19:33 [PATCH v30 00/30] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 01/30] usb: host: xhci: Repurpose event handler for skipping interrupter events Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 11:48 ` Mathias Nyman
2024-11-20 18:48 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 02/30] xhci: sec-intr: add initial api to register a secondary interrupter entity Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 14:36 ` Mathias Nyman
2024-11-21 1:34 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-21 19:15 ` Mathias Nyman
2024-11-21 20:24 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 03/30] usb: host: xhci-mem: Cleanup pending secondary event ring events Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 04/30] usb: host: xhci-mem: Allow for interrupter clients to choose specific index Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 05/30] usb: host: xhci-plat: Set XHCI max interrupters if property is present Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 06/30] usb: dwc3: Specify maximum number of XHCI interrupters Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 07/30] ALSA: Add USB audio device jack type Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 11:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 08/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Export USB SND APIs for modules Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 09/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Check for support for requested audio format Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 10/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Save UAC sample size information Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 11/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Prevent starting of audio stream if in use Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 12/30] ASoC: Add SOC USB APIs for adding an USB backend Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 13/30] ASoC: usb: Add PCM format check API for " Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 14/30] ASoC: usb: Create SOC USB SND jack kcontrol Wesley Cheng
2024-12-03 16:14 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-03 23:52 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 15/30] ASoC: usb: Fetch ASoC card and pcm device information Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 12:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-20 22:36 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:33 ` [PATCH v30 16/30] ASoC: doc: Add documentation for SOC USB Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 17/30] ASoC: dt-bindings: qcom,q6dsp-lpass-ports: Add USB_RX port Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 18/30] ASoC: dt-bindings: Update example for enabling USB offload on SM8250 Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 19/30] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 20/30] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: q6afe: Increase APR timeout Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 21/30] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add USB backend ASoC driver for Q6 Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 22/30] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add headphone jack for offload connection status Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 23/30] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Fetch USB offload mapped card and PCM device Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 24/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Introduce USB SND platform op callbacks Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 25/30] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Add USB QMI definitions Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 26/30] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Introduce QC USB SND offloading support Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 12:15 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-20 22:10 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 27/30] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Don't allow USB offload path if PCM device is in use Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 28/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Add USB offload route kcontrol Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 12:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-20 19:13 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-21 15:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-25 20:33 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-26 14:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-26 23:19 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-03 16:13 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-03 23:15 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-06 9:09 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-06 20:43 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-10 15:24 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-10 16:52 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2024-12-06 23:35 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 29/30] ALSA: usb-audio: Allow for rediscovery of connected USB SND devices Wesley Cheng
2024-11-06 19:34 ` [PATCH v30 30/30] ASoC: usb: Rediscover USB SND devices on USB port add Wesley Cheng
2024-11-15 22:42 ` [PATCH v30 00/30] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2024-11-16 7:42 ` Greg KH
2024-11-19 17:50 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-11-20 12:39 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-11-20 23:18 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-01 3:14 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-12-03 16:17 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-03 16:57 ` Greg KH
2024-12-04 21:14 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-05 1:15 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-05 6:50 ` Greg KH
2024-12-03 20:38 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-04 22:01 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-06 0:28 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-10 15:18 ` Cezary Rojewski
2024-12-10 22:20 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-17 23:20 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
[not found] ` <4C900353-B977-451C-B003-BAA51E458726@linux.dev>
2024-12-04 22:11 ` Cezary Rojewski
[not found] ` <4E9925AF-F297-42A5-9CB8-F8568F0A5EDF@linux.dev>
2024-12-06 0:53 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-10 0:59 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-10 16:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-12-11 2:00 ` Wesley Cheng
2024-12-13 9:10 ` Guan-Yu Lin
2024-12-03 16:16 ` Cezary Rojewski
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