haptics devices linux driver support

haptics devices linux driver support

[Trilok Soni]

Hi,

Does anyone know example Linux drivers for haptics devices?

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Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Jiri Slaby]

On 08/22/2009 07:04 PM, Trilok Soni wrote:
> Does anyone know example Linux drivers for haptics devices?

Yup, drivers/misc/phantom.c for Sensable Phantom (the old one over PCI).
The rest needed (esp. floating point computation) is done in userspace.

Then, all force-feedack drivers under drivers/input and drivers/hid.

What exactly do you want to know?

Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Kyungmin Park]

Hi,

There's three types as I know,

1) just GPIO enable motor
2) GPIO & PWM motor.
3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.

Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
is right naming or not.
I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.

Thank you,
Kyungmin Park


On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Jiri Slaby<jirislaby@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/22/2009 07:04 PM, Trilok Soni wrote:
>> Does anyone know example Linux drivers for haptics devices?
>
> Yup, drivers/misc/phantom.c for Sensable Phantom (the old one over PCI).
> The rest needed (esp. floating point computation) is done in userspace.
>
> Then, all force-feedack drivers under drivers/input and drivers/hid.
>
> What exactly do you want to know?
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Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Trilok Soni]

Hi Kyungmin,

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kyungmin Park<kmpark@infradead.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There's three types as I know,
>
> 1) just GPIO enable motor
> 2) GPIO & PWM motor.
> 3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.
>
> Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
> is right naming or not.
> I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.

I am looking at 3rd type, and evaulating that for embedded systems
devices having haptics chips can be programmed under drivers/input or
not. It is kind of early discussion and gathering inputs on what could
be lacking part in input subsystem for support such category of
devices.

Is it possible for you to submit your version of code and drivers? It
will be good starting point for discussion.


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Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar]

Hi,

I am interested to know real examples of haptic devices you speak about.
It would be nice if you send some links or pics.

I remember there was the same problem categorizing other input devices
like accelerometers.

Thanks


On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Trilok Soni<soni.trilok@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kyungmin,
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kyungmin Park<kmpark@infradead.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There's three types as I know,
>>
>> 1) just GPIO enable motor
>> 2) GPIO & PWM motor.
>> 3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.
>>
>> Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
>> is right naming or not.
>> I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.
>
> I am looking at 3rd type, and evaulating that for embedded systems
> devices having haptics chips can be programmed under drivers/input or
> not. It is kind of early discussion and gathering inputs on what could
> be lacking part in input subsystem for support such category of
> devices.
>
> Is it possible for you to submit your version of code and drivers? It
> will be good starting point for discussion.
>
>
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Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Trilok Soni]

Hi Kyungmin,

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Trilok Soni<soni.trilok@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kyungmin,
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kyungmin Park<kmpark@infradead.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There's three types as I know,
>>
>> 1) just GPIO enable motor
>> 2) GPIO & PWM motor.
>> 3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.
>>
>> Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
>> is right naming or not.
>> I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.
>
> I am looking at 3rd type, and evaulating that for embedded systems
> devices having haptics chips can be programmed under drivers/input or
> not. It is kind of early discussion and gathering inputs on what could
> be lacking part in input subsystem for support such category of
> devices.
>
> Is it possible for you to submit your version of code and drivers? It
> will be good starting point for discussion.

Any updates on my request ?

---Trilok Soni

Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Joonyoung Shim]

On 9/7/2009 8:29 PM, Trilok Soni wrote:
> Hi Kyungmin,
> 
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Trilok Soni<soni.trilok@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Kyungmin,
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kyungmin Park<kmpark@infradead.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There's three types as I know,
>>>
>>> 1) just GPIO enable motor
>>> 2) GPIO & PWM motor.
>>> 3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.
>>>
>>> Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
>>> is right naming or not.
>>> I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.
>> I am looking at 3rd type, and evaulating that for embedded systems
>> devices having haptics chips can be programmed under drivers/input or
>> not. It is kind of early discussion and gathering inputs on what could
>> be lacking part in input subsystem for support such category of
>> devices.
>>
>> Is it possible for you to submit your version of code and drivers? It
>> will be good starting point for discussion.
> 
> Any updates on my request ?
> 

Hi, I will post the haptic framework soon(maybe tomorrow) instead of
Kyungmin because he leaves a office for days.

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Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Trilok Soni]

Hi Joonyoung Shim,

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Joonyoung Shim<jy0922.shim@samsung.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/2009 8:29 PM, Trilok Soni wrote:
>> Hi Kyungmin,
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Trilok Soni<soni.trilok@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Kyungmin,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kyungmin Park<kmpark@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There's three types as I know,
>>>>
>>>> 1) just GPIO enable motor
>>>> 2) GPIO & PWM motor.
>>>> 3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.
>>>>
>>>> Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
>>>> is right naming or not.
>>>> I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.
>>> I am looking at 3rd type, and evaulating that for embedded systems
>>> devices having haptics chips can be programmed under drivers/input or
>>> not. It is kind of early discussion and gathering inputs on what could
>>> be lacking part in input subsystem for support such category of
>>> devices.
>>>
>>> Is it possible for you to submit your version of code and drivers? It
>>> will be good starting point for discussion.
>>
>> Any updates on my request ?
>>
>
> Hi, I will post the haptic framework soon(maybe tomorrow) instead of
> Kyungmin because he leaves a office for days.

Excellent. I just came back from vacation :)


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Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Kyungmin Park]

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Trilok Soni<soni.trilok@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Joonyoung Shim,
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Joonyoung Shim<jy0922.shim@samsung.com> wrote:
>> On 9/7/2009 8:29 PM, Trilok Soni wrote:
>>> Hi Kyungmin,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Trilok Soni<soni.trilok@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Kyungmin,
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kyungmin Park<kmpark@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> There's three types as I know,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) just GPIO enable motor
>>>>> 2) GPIO & PWM motor.
>>>>> 3) I2C based GPIO & PWM motor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly we made a motor framework at kernel. but I 'm not sure motor
>>>>> is right naming or not.
>>>>> I think we need new framework. since it's not input device.
>>>> I am looking at 3rd type, and evaulating that for embedded systems
>>>> devices having haptics chips can be programmed under drivers/input or
>>>> not. It is kind of early discussion and gathering inputs on what could
>>>> be lacking part in input subsystem for support such category of
>>>> devices.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible for you to submit your version of code and drivers? It
>>>> will be good starting point for discussion.
>>>
>>> Any updates on my request ?
>>>
>>
>> Hi, I will post the haptic framework soon(maybe tomorrow) instead of
>> Kyungmin because he leaves a office for days.
>
> Excellent. I just came back from vacation :)
>

FYI: I already finished the i2c based pwm & gpio devices. but I'm not
sure can release it at this time since we need to review it
internally.

Do you hear any patent issue? Since just one vendor (V company) has
almost patents related with vibrators.

Please find out the these.

Thank you,
Kyungmin Park

Re: haptics devices linux driver support

[Pavel Machek]

> >> Hi, I will post the haptic framework soon(maybe tomorrow) instead of
> >> Kyungmin because he leaves a office for days.
> >
> > Excellent. I just came back from vacation :)
> >
> 
> FYI: I already finished the i2c based pwm & gpio devices. but I'm not
> sure can release it at this time since we need to review it
> internally.
> 
> Do you hear any patent issue? Since just one vendor (V company) has
> almost patents related with vibrators.

> Please find out the these.

Please keep patent talk off lkml.
									Pavel

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