From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
Cc: Denis Benato <benato.denis96@gmail.com>,
platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>,
Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>,
"Luke D . Jones" <luke@ljones.dev>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] HID: asus: Fix ASUS ROG Laptop's Keyboard backlight handling
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:13:40 +0300 (EEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9da9e311-ae0c-5f05-5041-c1de383b3f59@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGwozwGqZ_yuNQ+TgtW4R79g4JWxZg-Q-vA7thKy_vSdpbY_yA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2025, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 at 18:16, Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 at 17:09, Ilpo Järvinen
> > <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2025, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 at 13:57, Denis Benato <benato.denis96@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 10/13/25 22:15, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> > > > > > This is a two part series which does the following:
> > > > > > - Clean-up init sequence
> > > > > > - Unify backlight handling to happen under asus-wmi so that all Aura
> > > > > > devices have synced brightness controls and the backlight button works
> > > > > > properly when it is on a USB laptop keyboard instead of one w/ WMI.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For more context, see cover letter of V1. Since V5, I removed some patches
> > > > > > to make this easier to merge.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All comments with these patches had been addressed since V4.
> > > > > I have loaded this patchset for users of asus-linux project to try out.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of them opened a bug report about a kernel bug that happens
> > > > > consistently when closing the lid of his laptop [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > He also sent another piece of kernel log, but didn't specify anything more
> > > > > about this [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://pastebin.com/akZx1w10
> > > > > [2] https://pastebin.com/sKdczPgf
> > > >
> > > > Can you provide a link to the bug report? [2] seems unrelated.
> > > >
> > > > As for [1], it looks like a trace that stems from a sysfs write to
> > > > brightness stemming from userspace that follows the same chain it
> > > > would on a stock kernel and times out. Is it present on a stock
> > > > kernel?
> > > >
> > > > Ilpo should know more about this, could the spinlock be interfering?
> > >
> > > [1] certainly seems to do schedule() from do_kbd_led_set() so it's not
> > > possible to use spinlock there.
> > >
> > > So we're back to what requires the spinlock? And what the spinlock
> > > protects?
> >
> > For that invocation, since it is coming from the cdev device owned by
> > asus_wmi, it protects asus_ref.listeners under do_kbd_led_set.
> > asus_wmi is protected by the fact it is owned by that device. Spinlock
> > is not required in this invocation due to not being an IRQ.
> >
> > Under asus_hid_event (second to last patch), which is called from an
> > IRQ, a spinlock is required for protecting both listeners and the
> > asus_ref.asus, and I suspect that scheduling from an IRQ is not
> > allowed either. Is that correct?
>
> So it is a bit tricky here. When the IRQ fires, it needs to know
> whether asus-wmi will handle the keyboard brightness event so that it
> falls back to emitting it.
>
> If we want it to know for sure, it needs to access asus_wmi, so it
> needs a spinlock or an IRQ friendly lock. This way, currently,
> asus_hid_event will return -EBUSY if there is no led device so the
> event propagates through hid.
>
> If we say that it is good enough to know that it was compiled with
> IS_REACHABLE(CONFIG_ASUS_WMI), ie the actual implementation of
> asus_hid_event in asus-wmi will never return an error, then,
> asus_hid_event can schedule a task to fire the event without a lock,
> and that task can use a normal locking primitive.
>
> If the task needs to be assigned to a device or have a handle,
> asus_hid_listener can be provided to asus_hid_event, so that it is
> owned by the calling device.
>
> What would the appropriate locking primitive be in this case?
If you can move the non-check content out of asus_hid_event(), then you
can nest mutex & spinlock for updating asus_ref. On reader side,
asus_hid_event() only takes the spinlock and the rest of the readers
(non-irq ones) can take just the mutex.
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i.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-20 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-13 20:15 [PATCH v6 0/7] HID: asus: Fix ASUS ROG Laptop's Keyboard backlight handling Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] HID: asus: refactor init sequence per spec Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 10:53 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-15 11:18 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 11:30 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] HID: asus: prevent binding to all HID devices on ROG Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 10:59 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Add support for multiple kbd RGB handlers Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 11:59 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-15 15:45 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 10:18 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-16 10:23 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 10:38 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] HID: asus: listen to the asus-wmi brightness device instead of creating one Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 21:44 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 21:57 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 22:06 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 22:18 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 22:50 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: remove unused keyboard backlight quirk Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] platform/x86: asus-wmi: add keyboard brightness event handler Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-15 12:18 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-15 15:38 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 20:15 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] HID: asus: add support for the asus-wmi brightness handler Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-13 21:37 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-13 21:36 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] HID: asus: Fix ASUS ROG Laptop's Keyboard backlight handling Denis Benato
2025-10-13 21:45 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 11:57 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 12:14 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 12:19 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 12:28 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 12:46 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 12:51 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 14:32 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 14:44 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 14:44 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-16 15:16 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-16 15:08 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-16 16:16 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-17 7:54 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-17 11:00 ` Denis Benato
2025-10-17 11:21 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-20 17:13 ` Ilpo Järvinen [this message]
2025-10-20 18:54 ` Antheas Kapenekakis
2025-10-17 10:36 ` Ilpo Järvinen
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