From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ping Cheng Subject: Re: Wacom based devices and the mt kernel protocol. Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:30:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4C1E6A8C.4020904@seas.upenn.edu> <4C1EBE06.7020605@seas.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: Received: from mail-pv0-f174.google.com ([74.125.83.174]:42304 "EHLO mail-pv0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752295Ab0FUFa1 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:30:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C1EBE06.7020605@seas.upenn.edu> Sender: linux-input-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-input@vger.kernel.org To: Rafi Rubin Cc: Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar , Henrik Rydberg , Chase Douglas , Dmitry Torokhov , linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Rafi Rubin wrote= : >> >>>>> This impact very much the decision of a Linux user wanting to buy= wacom mt device. >>>> >>>> I think end users have already got the Linux support from Wacom. =A0= Can >>>> you share the specific issues that are preventing Linux end users = from >>>> buying a Wacom MT devices? If I didn't misunderstand your point he= re, >>>> you are talking about Linux users, not Linux developers/hackers, >>>> right? >>> >>> I think normal users wanting to use linux for MT are generally frus= trated and >>> confused at the moment. >> >> Why do the end users get frustrated and confused? Can you share some >> examples from an end user's (not developer's) perspective with me? > > Sorry, I've been too focused on the n-trig users. =A0They have been f= rustrated, > and I've seen from the forums that some have been playing with custom= ized > versions of both the kernel and wacom x driver to get your two finger= gestures. > > I'm also projecting my own frustrations, seeing the X mt interface st= ill not > quite set, and very little in the way of applications that use mt at = all. > We're still quite a ways away from seeing the full potential of a mor= e hands on desktop. As far as I understand, this issue is not device driver or MT support specific. It is universal on Linux. >>> Certainly the protocol between the wacom kernel driver >>> and the wacom user space driver is way below the level that most ar= e following. >> >> By "most", do you mean most MT device drivers, or most end users, or >> most developers? I am eager to bring the Wacom driver to the specifi= c >> level. > > End users, they don't tend to care about the internal protocols as lo= ng as their > programs do what they want. Then, I still don't get what you meant by "way below the level that most are following". I'd really like to understand it so I can work on it. Thank you, Ping -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" = in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html