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From: lirc@bartelmus.de (Christoph Bartelmus)
To: jonsmirl@gmail.com
Cc: awalls@md.metrocast.net, jarod@wilsonet.com,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	lirc-list@lists.sourceforge.net, maximlevitsky@gmail.com,
	mchehab@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/13] IR: Port ene driver to new IR subsystem and enable  it.
Date: 31 Jul 2010 19:47:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BTtOJbzJjFB@christoph> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimaut1mMUXwbJAgjNjmQkxgsf-GOCTXmKYNm1Lz@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jon,

on 31 Jul 10 at 12:25, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Andy Walls <awalls@md.metrocast.net>
> wrote:
>> I think you won't be able to fix the problem conclusively either way.  A
>> lot of how the chip's clocks should be programmed depends on how the
>> GPIOs are used and what crystal is used.
>>
>> I suspect many designers will use some reference design layout from ENE,
>> but it won't be good in every case.  The wire-up of the ENE of various
>> motherboards is likely something you'll have to live with as unknowns.
>>
>> This is a case where looser tolerances in the in kernel decoders could
>> reduce this driver's complexity and/or get rid of arbitrary fudge
>> factors in the driver.

> The tolerances are as loose as they can be. The NEC protocol uses
> pulses that are 4% longer than JVC. The decoders allow errors up to 2%
> (50% of 4%).  The crystals used in electronics are accurate to
> 0.0001%+.

But the standard IR receivers are far from being accurate enough to allow
tolerance windows of only 2%.
I'm surprised that this works for you. LIRC uses a standard tolerance of
30% / 100 us and even this is not enough sometimes.

For the NEC protocol one signal consists of 22 individual pulses at 38kHz.
If the receiver just misses one pulse, you already have an error of 1/22
> 4%.

Christoph
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-31 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-30  2:17 [PATCH 0/9 v2] IR: few fixes, additions and ENE driver Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 01/13] IR: Kconfig fixes Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 02/13] IR: minor fixes: Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 03/13] IR: replace spinlock with mutex Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 04/13] IR: fix locking in ir_raw_event_work Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:42   ` Andy Walls
2010-07-30 11:02     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 05/13] IR: JVC: make repeat work Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 06/13] IR: nec decoder: fix repeat Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:50   ` Andy Walls
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 07/13] IR: NECX: support repeat Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 08/13] IR: Allow not to compile keymaps in Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 09/13] IR: add helper function for hardware with small o/b buffer Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 10/13] IR: extend interfaces to support more device settings LIRC: add new IOCTL that enables learning mode (wide band receiver) Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 11/13] IR: report unknown scancodes the in-kernel decoders found Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 12/13] STAGING: remove lirc_ene0100 driver Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:17 ` [PATCH 13/13] IR: Port ene driver to new IR subsystem and enable it Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30  2:39   ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-30  3:46     ` Andy Walls
2010-07-30 11:36       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30 11:51         ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-30 11:54           ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30 12:02             ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-30 12:07               ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-30 12:45                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 13:55                   ` Andy Walls
2010-07-31 14:28                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 14:37                       ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-31 14:51                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 15:12                   ` Andy Walls
2010-07-31 16:25                     ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-31 16:44                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 16:51                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 17:47                       ` Christoph Bartelmus [this message]
2010-07-31 18:14                         ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-31 18:33                           ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-31 18:51                           ` Andy Walls
2010-07-31 21:53                             ` Jon Smirl
2010-07-31 23:26                               ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-08-01  9:43                               ` Christoph Bartelmus
2010-08-02 15:12                               ` Remote that breaks current system (was: IR: Port ene driver...) it Jarod Wilson
2010-08-02 16:11                                 ` Jon Smirl
2010-08-02 16:42                                   ` Remote that breaks current system Christoph Bartelmus
2010-08-02 17:13                                     ` Jon Smirl
2010-08-02 18:09                                       ` Jarod Wilson
2010-08-02 20:42                                         ` Jon Smirl
2010-08-11 14:38                                           ` Jarod Wilson
2010-08-12  6:46                                             ` Christoph Bartelmus
2010-08-16  4:04                                               ` Jarod Wilson
2010-08-16 20:41                                                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-08-17  0:14                                                   ` Jarod Wilson
2010-08-17  3:30                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-08-17  3:40                                                       ` Jarod Wilson
2010-08-02 17:51                                     ` Jarod Wilson
2010-08-01  9:50                           ` [PATCH 13/13] IR: Port ene driver to new IR subsystem and enable it Christoph Bartelmus
2010-08-01 14:00                             ` Jon Smirl
2010-08-01 14:05                               ` Jon Smirl
2010-08-01 15:13                               ` Christoph Bartelmus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-30 11:38 [PATCH 0/9 v3] IR: few fixes, additions and ENE driver Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-30 11:38 ` [PATCH 13/13] IR: Port ene driver to new IR subsystem and enable it Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 14:59 [PATCH 0/9 v4] IR: few fixes, additions and ENE driver Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-31 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/13] IR: Port ene driver to new IR subsystem and enable it Maxim Levitsky

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