From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
Ian Abbott <abbotti@mev.co.uk>,
linux-input <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] kernel.h: Introduce const_max() for VLA removal
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:34:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzO12QMFJHe8osoWfph8jnjgp_jLUQWmgbNmth_KwPxXw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jLHam5kz18k9uvhsz2WYodkF2v1tsEOV4Sx0O7jir4B3A@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> So, AIUI, I can either get strict type checking, in which case, this
> is rejected (which I assume there is still a desire to have):
>
> int foo[const_max(6, sizeof(whatever))];
Ehh, yes, that looks fairly sane, and erroring out would be annoying.
But maybe we should just make the type explicit, and make it "const_max_t()"?
I think all the existing users are of type "max_t()" anyway due to the
very same issue, no?
At least if there's an explicit type like 'size_t', then passing in
"-1" becoming a large unsigned integer is understandable and clear,
not just some odd silent behavior.
Put another way: I think it's unacceptable that
const_max(-1,6)
magically becomes a huge positive number like in that patch of yours, but
const_max_t(size_t, -1, 6)
*obviously* is a huge positive number.
The two things would *do* the same thing, but in the second case the
type is explicit and visible.
> due to __builtin_types_compatible_p() rejecting it, or I can construct
> a "positive arguments only" test, in which the above is accepted, but
> this is rejected:
That sounds acceptable too, although the "const_max_t()" thing is
presumably going to be simpler?
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-15 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-15 19:47 [PATCH v4 0/2] Remove false-positive VLAs when using max() Kees Cook
2018-03-15 19:47 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] kernel.h: Introduce const_max() for VLA removal Kees Cook
2018-03-15 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-15 22:16 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-15 22:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-15 22:46 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-15 22:58 ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-15 23:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-15 23:17 ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-15 23:31 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-15 23:34 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-03-15 23:41 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-15 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-15 23:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-15 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-16 3:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-16 14:15 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-15 19:47 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] Remove false-positive VLAs when using max() Kees Cook
2018-03-16 7:52 ` Nikolay Borisov
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=CA+55aFzO12QMFJHe8osoWfph8jnjgp_jLUQWmgbNmth_KwPxXw@mail.gmail.com \
--to=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=David.Laight@aculab.com \
--cc=abbotti@mev.co.uk \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=jpoimboe@redhat.com \
--cc=keescook@chromium.org \
--cc=kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com \
--cc=linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-input@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk \
--cc=miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com \
--cc=mingo@kernel.org \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=rdunlap@infradead.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).