* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing [not found] <CAA_E9NGQC1Jy-MqRbMEj1cetuFktknBmtU91N7gPv1_rApzX6Q@mail.gmail.com> @ 2011-10-07 22:07 ` Dmitry Torokhov 2011-10-07 23:01 ` Terry Lambert 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2011-10-07 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Terry Lambert; +Cc: linux-usb, Linux Input, Jiri Kosina Hi Terry, On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 01:44:29PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > I have a USB keyboard that needs a workaround. I know what the > workaround is, but not where to plumb it in. > > This is apparently an issue with a number of keyboards from a number > of vendors, and Mac OS X and Windows both work around it. It impacts > all Linux desktops, Android, and Chrome OS for a number of popular > folding keyboards, as well as other keyboards. > > I'm perfectly able to write the workaround, and have done so using the > boot protocol, but now I want to fix the issue in the default stack > used for the console. > > I don't care about the UHCI/EHCI plumbing, or anything up to hiddev; > but from there it gets murky as to how an event in the raw driver ends > up getting turned into a keyboard key. It appears to be lost in > callbacks I'm having a hard time tracing through. > > I've read three books on the Linux USB system, two of them very out of > date, and they're all written from the perspective of "So, you want to > write a device driver", rather than the perspective of "This book > documents the plumbing between the driver and userspace and how to > figure it out". > > So the question is: how are things plumbed between hiddev and the > console driver, They aren't. Or maybe we are talking about different "hiddev"s. The generic HID driver binds devices to hid-input which registers them with input core as separate input devices. The legacy console registers a separate input handler (see drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c) that binds to all keyboard-like devices, listens to input events and converts them to keystrokes and sends them to tty. There is also a evdev input handler (that's where evtest utility gets its data from) that provides input event data to userspace via /dev/input/eventX nodes where X picks it does its own thing with it. > so I can figure out where I need to hack on the > events. > > I just need to know the correct place/method to interpose the events. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > -- Terry > > PS: For the curious: > > I put a USB protocol analyzer on this thing, and discovered the problem. > > The issue is that modifier keys are not reported in the bitmap on the > keyboard, and are instead signaled as in-band key events themselves. > The Mac OS X and Windows drivers work around the issue by > pre-processing the event stream looking for in-band modifier keys, and > then converting them into bit-sets in the (0'ed) bitmap of modifier > keys, and then dropping them from the key event stream. Without the > workaround, the report order is such that it looks like a modifier up > report followed by a keystroke. Here's evtest output for the sequence > after processing by the (unknown to me -- that's what I'm trying to > find out) code: > > Event: time 1318019769.922534, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 700e1 > Event: time 1318019769.922550, type 1 (Key), code 42 (LeftShift), value 1 > Event: time 1318019769.922554, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > Event: time 1318019770.082521, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value > 700e1 XXXX > Event: time 1318019770.082534, type 1 (Key), code 42 (LeftShift), > value 0 XXXX Hmm, so the shift is reported as released before we get the next key... Wierd... > Event: time 1318019770.082549, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 7001e > Event: time 1318019770.082553, type 1 (Key), code 2 (1), value 1 > Event: time 1318019770.082555, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > 1Event: time 1318019770.242541, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 7001e > Event: time 1318019770.242552, type 1 (Key), code 2 (1), value 0 > Event: time 1318019770.242555, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > This is a shift-1. > > The patch for usbkbd.c looks like this: > > diff --git a/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c b/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > index 0658173..d22ecdb 100644 > --- a/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > +++ b/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > @@ -2,6 +2,10 @@ > * Copyright (c) 1999-2001 Vojtech Pavlik > * > * USB HIDBP Keyboard support > + * > + * Device Class Definition for Human Interface Devices (HID) Version 1.11 > + * Section 8.3 describes the report formant. > + * http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/HID1_11.pdf > */ > > /* > @@ -97,6 +101,16 @@ static void usb_kbd_irq(struct urb *urb) > goto resubmit; > } > > + /* Convert in-band modifier keys to modifier bits */ > + for (i = 2; i < 8; i++) { > + if (kbd->new[i] >= 0xE0 && kbd->new[i] <= 0xE7) { > + kbd->new[0] |= (1 >> (kbd->new[i] - 0xE0)); > + kbd->new[i] = 0; > + } > + } Wait, why are you using usbkbd? Unless you have very compelling reason you should be using hid & hid-input. Thanks. -- Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing 2011-10-07 22:07 ` Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing Dmitry Torokhov @ 2011-10-07 23:01 ` Terry Lambert 2011-10-07 23:09 ` Terry Lambert 2011-10-08 0:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Terry Lambert @ 2011-10-07 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: linux-usb, Linux Input, Jiri Kosina Thanks for replying, Dmitry... I guess I need to clarify a point or two. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Terry, > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 01:44:29PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I have a USB keyboard that needs a workaround. I know what the > > workaround is, but not where to plumb it in. > > > > This is apparently an issue with a number of keyboards from a number > > of vendors, and Mac OS X and Windows both work around it. It impacts > > all Linux desktops, Android, and Chrome OS for a number of popular > > folding keyboards, as well as other keyboards. > > > > I'm perfectly able to write the workaround, and have done so using the > > boot protocol, but now I want to fix the issue in the default stack > > used for the console. > > > > I don't care about the UHCI/EHCI plumbing, or anything up to hiddev; > > but from there it gets murky as to how an event in the raw driver ends > > up getting turned into a keyboard key. It appears to be lost in > > callbacks I'm having a hard time tracing through. > > > > I've read three books on the Linux USB system, two of them very out of > > date, and they're all written from the perspective of "So, you want to > > write a device driver", rather than the perspective of "This book > > documents the plumbing between the driver and userspace and how to > > figure it out". > > > > So the question is: how are things plumbed between hiddev and the > > console driver, > > > They aren't. Or maybe we are talking about different "hiddev"s. The > generic HID driver binds devices to hid-input which registers them with > input core as separate input devices. The legacy console registers a > separate input handler (see drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c) that binds to all > keyboard-like devices, listens to input events and converts them to > keystrokes and sends them to tty. My question is "who processes USB report packets from a USB keyboard into EV_KEY events?" I understand that there's a separate evdev handler that publishes raw events as /dev/input/eventX. It's handling the events from somewhere, but it's not clear to me how a hidraw1 event turns into a console input event. Somewhere someone is translating a USB 1.11 section 8.3 report into an EV_KEY, and I need to do the modifier magic to alter the contents of the reports before it gets to whoever that is. You seem to be saying hid-input.c ... but I'm not seeing the modifier bits being processed out of the report? > There is also a evdev input handler (that's where evtest utility gets > its data from) that provides input event data to userspace via > /dev/input/eventX nodes where X picks it does its own thing with it. > > > so I can figure out where I need to hack on the > > events. > > > > I just need to know the correct place/method to interpose the events. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > -- Terry > > > > PS: For the curious: > > > > I put a USB protocol analyzer on this thing, and discovered the problem. > > > > The issue is that modifier keys are not reported in the bitmap on the > > keyboard, and are instead signaled as in-band key events themselves. > > The Mac OS X and Windows drivers work around the issue by > > pre-processing the event stream looking for in-band modifier keys, and > > then converting them into bit-sets in the (0'ed) bitmap of modifier > > keys, and then dropping them from the key event stream. Without the > > workaround, the report order is such that it looks like a modifier up > > report followed by a keystroke. Here's evtest output for the sequence > > after processing by the (unknown to me -- that's what I'm trying to > > find out) code: > > > > Event: time 1318019769.922534, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 700e1 > > Event: time 1318019769.922550, type 1 (Key), code 42 (LeftShift), value 1 > > Event: time 1318019769.922554, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > Event: time 1318019770.082521, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value > > 700e1 XXXX > > Event: time 1318019770.082534, type 1 (Key), code 42 (LeftShift), > > value 0 XXXX > > Hmm, so the shift is reported as released before we get the next key... > Wierd... > > > Event: time 1318019770.082549, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 7001e > > Event: time 1318019770.082553, type 1 (Key), code 2 (1), value 1 > > Event: time 1318019770.082555, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > 1Event: time 1318019770.242541, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 7001e > > Event: time 1318019770.242552, type 1 (Key), code 2 (1), value 0 > > Event: time 1318019770.242555, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > > > This is a shift-1. > > > > The patch for usbkbd.c looks like this: > > > > diff --git a/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c b/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > > index 0658173..d22ecdb 100644 > > --- a/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > > +++ b/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > > @@ -2,6 +2,10 @@ > > * Copyright (c) 1999-2001 Vojtech Pavlik > > * > > * USB HIDBP Keyboard support > > + * > > + * Device Class Definition for Human Interface Devices (HID) Version 1.11 > > + * Section 8.3 describes the report formant. > > + * http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/HID1_11.pdf > > */ > > > > /* > > @@ -97,6 +101,16 @@ static void usb_kbd_irq(struct urb *urb) > > goto resubmit; > > } > > > > + /* Convert in-band modifier keys to modifier bits */ > > + for (i = 2; i < 8; i++) { > > + if (kbd->new[i] >= 0xE0 && kbd->new[i] <= 0xE7) { > > + kbd->new[0] |= (1 >> (kbd->new[i] - 0xE0)); > > + kbd->new[i] = 0; > > + } > > + } > > Wait, why are you using usbkbd? Unless you have very compelling reason > you should be using hid & hid-input. I fixed it there because it was accessible and a way to test the fix. I'm also going to have to do something similar for coreboot/u-boot to allow the keyboard to be used in the boot loader, so it's not wasted effort, and it was an OK proof of concept. So there was a good reason. I'm getting the impression from the above that the file I should be looking in is: drivers/hid/hid-input.c Where are the modifier bits being decoded there? Maybe I'm just not seeing something in front of me... The analyzer reports the USB over the wire report as: <-- left shift key down --> 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 <- transaction 69 82 18 <- input packet 48 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 A8 45 <-- breakout : <-- Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 <-- ***WRONG *** Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard LeftShift (225) <-- ***WRONG *** Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : --> <-- 1 key down --> 00 00 E1 1E 00 00 00 00 <- transaction 69 82 18 <- input packet C3 00 00 E1 1E 00 00 00 00 A8 45 <-- breakout : <-- Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 <-- ***WRONG *** Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard LeftShift (d225) <-- *** WRONG *** Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard 1 and ! (d30) Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 --> <-- 1 key up -- > 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 <- transaction 69 82 18 <- input packet 48 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 A8 45 <-- breakout : <-- Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 --> <-- left shift key up --> 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 <- transaction 69 82 18 <- input packet 48 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BF F4 <-- breakout : <-- Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 <-- ***WRONG *** Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard LeftShift (225) <-- ***WRONG *** Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard/Keypad Array : --> I just need to know where in the code to stomp the report into correctness. Should make a bunch of people happy. 8-) Thanks, -- Terry > Thanks. > > -- > Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing 2011-10-07 23:01 ` Terry Lambert @ 2011-10-07 23:09 ` Terry Lambert 2011-10-08 0:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Terry Lambert @ 2011-10-07 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: linux-usb, Linux Input, Jiri Kosina Whoops. Flip those last two bit decodes! -- Terry On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Terry Lambert <tlambert@chromium.org> wrote: > > Thanks for replying, Dmitry... > > I guess I need to clarify a point or two. > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Dmitry Torokhov > <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Terry, > > > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 01:44:29PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > I have a USB keyboard that needs a workaround. I know what the > > > workaround is, but not where to plumb it in. > > > > > > This is apparently an issue with a number of keyboards from a number > > > of vendors, and Mac OS X and Windows both work around it. It impacts > > > all Linux desktops, Android, and Chrome OS for a number of popular > > > folding keyboards, as well as other keyboards. > > > > > > I'm perfectly able to write the workaround, and have done so using the > > > boot protocol, but now I want to fix the issue in the default stack > > > used for the console. > > > > > > I don't care about the UHCI/EHCI plumbing, or anything up to hiddev; > > > but from there it gets murky as to how an event in the raw driver ends > > > up getting turned into a keyboard key. It appears to be lost in > > > callbacks I'm having a hard time tracing through. > > > > > > I've read three books on the Linux USB system, two of them very out of > > > date, and they're all written from the perspective of "So, you want to > > > write a device driver", rather than the perspective of "This book > > > documents the plumbing between the driver and userspace and how to > > > figure it out". > > > > > > So the question is: how are things plumbed between hiddev and the > > > console driver, > > > > > > They aren't. Or maybe we are talking about different "hiddev"s. The > > generic HID driver binds devices to hid-input which registers them with > > input core as separate input devices. The legacy console registers a > > separate input handler (see drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c) that binds to all > > keyboard-like devices, listens to input events and converts them to > > keystrokes and sends them to tty. > > My question is "who processes USB report packets from a USB keyboard > into EV_KEY events?" > > I understand that there's a separate evdev handler that publishes raw > events as /dev/input/eventX. It's handling the events from somewhere, > but it's not clear to me how a hidraw1 event turns into a console > input event. > > Somewhere someone is translating a USB 1.11 section 8.3 report into an > EV_KEY, and I need to do the modifier magic to alter the contents of > the reports before it gets to whoever that is. > You seem to be saying hid-input.c ... but I'm not seeing the modifier > bits being processed out of the report? > > > > There is also a evdev input handler (that's where evtest utility gets > > its data from) that provides input event data to userspace via > > /dev/input/eventX nodes where X picks it does its own thing with it. > > > > > so I can figure out where I need to hack on the > > > events. > > > > > > I just need to know the correct place/method to interpose the events. > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -- Terry > > > > > > PS: For the curious: > > > > > > I put a USB protocol analyzer on this thing, and discovered the problem. > > > > > > The issue is that modifier keys are not reported in the bitmap on the > > > keyboard, and are instead signaled as in-band key events themselves. > > > The Mac OS X and Windows drivers work around the issue by > > > pre-processing the event stream looking for in-band modifier keys, and > > > then converting them into bit-sets in the (0'ed) bitmap of modifier > > > keys, and then dropping them from the key event stream. Without the > > > workaround, the report order is such that it looks like a modifier up > > > report followed by a keystroke. Here's evtest output for the sequence > > > after processing by the (unknown to me -- that's what I'm trying to > > > find out) code: > > > > > > Event: time 1318019769.922534, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 700e1 > > > Event: time 1318019769.922550, type 1 (Key), code 42 (LeftShift), value 1 > > > Event: time 1318019769.922554, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > > Event: time 1318019770.082521, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value > > > 700e1 XXXX > > > Event: time 1318019770.082534, type 1 (Key), code 42 (LeftShift), > > > value 0 XXXX > > > > Hmm, so the shift is reported as released before we get the next key... > > Wierd... > > > > > Event: time 1318019770.082549, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 7001e > > > Event: time 1318019770.082553, type 1 (Key), code 2 (1), value 1 > > > Event: time 1318019770.082555, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > > 1Event: time 1318019770.242541, type 4 (Misc), code 4 (ScanCode), value 7001e > > > Event: time 1318019770.242552, type 1 (Key), code 2 (1), value 0 > > > Event: time 1318019770.242555, -------------- Report Sync ------------ > > > > > > This is a shift-1. > > > > > > The patch for usbkbd.c looks like this: > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c b/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > > > index 0658173..d22ecdb 100644 > > > --- a/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > > > +++ b/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.c > > > @@ -2,6 +2,10 @@ > > > * Copyright (c) 1999-2001 Vojtech Pavlik > > > * > > > * USB HIDBP Keyboard support > > > + * > > > + * Device Class Definition for Human Interface Devices (HID) Version 1.11 > > > + * Section 8.3 describes the report formant. > > > + * http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/HID1_11.pdf > > > */ > > > > > > /* > > > @@ -97,6 +101,16 @@ static void usb_kbd_irq(struct urb *urb) > > > goto resubmit; > > > } > > > > > > + /* Convert in-band modifier keys to modifier bits */ > > > + for (i = 2; i < 8; i++) { > > > + if (kbd->new[i] >= 0xE0 && kbd->new[i] <= 0xE7) { > > > + kbd->new[0] |= (1 >> (kbd->new[i] - 0xE0)); > > > + kbd->new[i] = 0; > > > + } > > > + } > > > > Wait, why are you using usbkbd? Unless you have very compelling reason > > you should be using hid & hid-input. > > I fixed it there because it was accessible and a way to test the fix. > I'm also going to have to do something similar for coreboot/u-boot to > allow the keyboard to be used in the boot loader, so it's not wasted > effort, and it was an OK proof of concept. So there was a good > reason. > > I'm getting the impression from the above that the file I should be > looking in is: > > drivers/hid/hid-input.c > > Where are the modifier bits being decoded there? Maybe I'm just not > seeing something in front of me... > > The analyzer reports the USB over the wire report as: > > <-- left shift key down --> > 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 <- transaction > 69 82 18 <- input packet > 48 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 A8 45 <-- breakout : <-- > Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 <-- ***WRONG *** > Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard LeftShift (225) <-- ***WRONG *** > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > --> > <-- 1 key down --> > 00 00 E1 1E 00 00 00 00 <- transaction > 69 82 18 <- input packet > C3 00 00 E1 1E 00 00 00 00 A8 45 <-- breakout : <-- > Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 <-- ***WRONG *** > Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard LeftShift (d225) <-- *** WRONG *** > Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard 1 and ! (d30) > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > --> > <-- 1 key up -- > > 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 <- transaction > 69 82 18 <- input packet > 48 00 00 E1 00 00 00 00 00 A8 45 <-- breakout : <-- > Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : 00 > --> > <-- left shift key up --> > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 <- transaction > 69 82 18 <- input packet > 48 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BF F4 <-- breakout : <-- > Keyboard LeftControl : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftShift : 0b0 <-- ***WRONG *** > Keyboard LeftAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard LeftGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard RightControl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightShiftl : 0b0 > Keyboard RightAlt : 0b0 > Keyboard RightGUI : 0b0 > Keyboard/Keypad Array : Keyboard LeftShift (225) <-- ***WRONG *** > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > Keyboard/Keypad Array : > --> > > I just need to know where in the code to stomp the report into > correctness. Should make a bunch of people happy. 8-) > > Thanks, > -- Terry > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing 2011-10-07 23:01 ` Terry Lambert 2011-10-07 23:09 ` Terry Lambert @ 2011-10-08 0:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov 2011-10-08 2:56 ` Terry Lambert 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2011-10-08 0:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Terry Lambert; +Cc: linux-usb, Linux Input, Jiri Kosina On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:01:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Thanks for replying, Dmitry... > > I guess I need to clarify a point or two. > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Dmitry Torokhov > <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Terry, > > > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 01:44:29PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > I have a USB keyboard that needs a workaround. I know what the > > > workaround is, but not where to plumb it in. > > > > > > This is apparently an issue with a number of keyboards from a number > > > of vendors, and Mac OS X and Windows both work around it. It impacts > > > all Linux desktops, Android, and Chrome OS for a number of popular > > > folding keyboards, as well as other keyboards. > > > > > > I'm perfectly able to write the workaround, and have done so using the > > > boot protocol, but now I want to fix the issue in the default stack > > > used for the console. > > > > > > I don't care about the UHCI/EHCI plumbing, or anything up to hiddev; > > > but from there it gets murky as to how an event in the raw driver ends > > > up getting turned into a keyboard key. It appears to be lost in > > > callbacks I'm having a hard time tracing through. > > > > > > I've read three books on the Linux USB system, two of them very out of > > > date, and they're all written from the perspective of "So, you want to > > > write a device driver", rather than the perspective of "This book > > > documents the plumbing between the driver and userspace and how to > > > figure it out". > > > > > > So the question is: how are things plumbed between hiddev and the > > > console driver, > > > > > > They aren't. Or maybe we are talking about different "hiddev"s. The > > generic HID driver binds devices to hid-input which registers them with > > input core as separate input devices. The legacy console registers a > > separate input handler (see drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c) that binds to all > > keyboard-like devices, listens to input events and converts them to > > keystrokes and sends them to tty. > > My question is "who processes USB report packets from a USB keyboard > into EV_KEY events?" drivers/hid/hid-input.c > > I understand that there's a separate evdev handler that publishes raw > events as /dev/input/eventX. It's handling the events from somewhere, > but it's not clear to me how a hidraw1 event turns into a console > input event. > > Somewhere someone is translating a USB 1.11 section 8.3 report into an > EV_KEY, and I need to do the modifier magic to alter the contents of > the reports before it gets to whoever that is. > You seem to be saying hid-input.c ... but I'm not seeing the modifier > bits being processed out of the report? I do not believe we pay attention to these modifier bits as we keep track of keys pressed ourselves (and keys could be remapped anyway). Anyway, it looks like the devicde should not be reportign LeftShift together with 1 in the 2nd report as it makes hhid-input think that (accounding to the rules of 8.3) it is being released. I wonder if the fix is to not replrt released when we get newly pressed keys in the report. Thanks. -- Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing 2011-10-08 0:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov @ 2011-10-08 2:56 ` Terry Lambert [not found] ` <CAA_E9NEi_gxb4px1344ChsAMmTEkUGSP8Vj=X31fBnQgwJ4c0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Terry Lambert @ 2011-10-08 2:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: linux-usb, Linux Input, Jiri Kosina You make a very good point on the key remapping. ... Are we sure that there isn't a field in the keyboard information in the USB that reports the keyboard does this? The only other alternative seems to be to quirk the keyboard as reporting keys down when they are down, up when they are up, and generating pseudo events for "keycode not present in report". I guess I'm willing to write a "hosed keyboard driver" driver if necessary. This apparently effects about 5-10% of keyboards, predominantly laptops with internal USB (some dell inspiron, some samsung), and the folding keyboards people like to use with android tablets. I'm willing to take any advice about where I can get a handle on all the keys in a given report to implement a general quirk on this hardware. If necessary, we can always write a driver, I suppose, if you can point me at an example? Thanks, -- Terry On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:01:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Thanks for replying, Dmitry... > > > > I guess I need to clarify a point or two. > > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Dmitry Torokhov > > <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Terry, > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 01:44:29PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > I have a USB keyboard that needs a workaround. I know what the > > > > workaround is, but not where to plumb it in. > > > > > > > > This is apparently an issue with a number of keyboards from a number > > > > of vendors, and Mac OS X and Windows both work around it. It impacts > > > > all Linux desktops, Android, and Chrome OS for a number of popular > > > > folding keyboards, as well as other keyboards. > > > > > > > > I'm perfectly able to write the workaround, and have done so using the > > > > boot protocol, but now I want to fix the issue in the default stack > > > > used for the console. > > > > > > > > I don't care about the UHCI/EHCI plumbing, or anything up to hiddev; > > > > but from there it gets murky as to how an event in the raw driver ends > > > > up getting turned into a keyboard key. It appears to be lost in > > > > callbacks I'm having a hard time tracing through. > > > > > > > > I've read three books on the Linux USB system, two of them very out of > > > > date, and they're all written from the perspective of "So, you want to > > > > write a device driver", rather than the perspective of "This book > > > > documents the plumbing between the driver and userspace and how to > > > > figure it out". > > > > > > > > So the question is: how are things plumbed between hiddev and the > > > > console driver, > > > > > > > > > They aren't. Or maybe we are talking about different "hiddev"s. The > > > generic HID driver binds devices to hid-input which registers them with > > > input core as separate input devices. The legacy console registers a > > > separate input handler (see drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c) that binds to all > > > keyboard-like devices, listens to input events and converts them to > > > keystrokes and sends them to tty. > > > > My question is "who processes USB report packets from a USB keyboard > > into EV_KEY events?" > > drivers/hid/hid-input.c > > > > > I understand that there's a separate evdev handler that publishes raw > > events as /dev/input/eventX. It's handling the events from somewhere, > > but it's not clear to me how a hidraw1 event turns into a console > > input event. > > > > Somewhere someone is translating a USB 1.11 section 8.3 report into an > > EV_KEY, and I need to do the modifier magic to alter the contents of > > the reports before it gets to whoever that is. > > You seem to be saying hid-input.c ... but I'm not seeing the modifier > > bits being processed out of the report? > > I do not believe we pay attention to these modifier bits as we keep > track of keys pressed ourselves (and keys could be remapped anyway). > > Anyway, it looks like the devicde should not be reportign LeftShift > together with 1 in the 2nd report as it makes hhid-input think that > (accounding to the rules of 8.3) it is being released. > > I wonder if the fix is to not replrt released when we get newly pressed > keys in the report. > > Thanks. > > -- > Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing [not found] ` <CAA_E9NEi_gxb4px1344ChsAMmTEkUGSP8Vj=X31fBnQgwJ4c0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2011-10-08 6:19 ` Jiri Kosina [not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1110080812170.14901-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jiri Kosina @ 2011-10-08 6:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Terry Lambert Cc: Dmitry Torokhov, linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Linux Input On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Terry Lambert wrote: > You make a very good point on the key remapping. > > ... > > Are we sure that there isn't a field in the keyboard information in > the USB that reports the keyboard does this? > > The only other alternative seems to be to quirk the keyboard as > reporting keys down when they are down, up when they are up, and > generating pseudo events for "keycode not present in report". > > I guess I'm willing to write a "hosed keyboard driver" driver if > necessary. This apparently effects about 5-10% of keyboards, > predominantly laptops with internal USB (some dell inspiron, some > samsung), and the folding keyboards people like to use with android > tablets. > > I'm willing to take any advice about where I can get a handle on all > the keys in a given report to implement a general quirk on this > hardware. > > If necessary, we can always write a driver, I suppose, if you can > point me at an example? So if I understood the situation correctly (Dmitry, thanks for adding me to CC), what you want to do is to write a very simple driver that has a hook called every time HID event occurs on the keyboard, and have it do modifier magic before it's reported to the input subsystem. There are various existing drivers which are doing exactly this that can serve as an example. The simplest one probably is hid-microsoft, the more sophisticated one is hid-apple. These two are registering ->event callback, so they are obtaining already pre-parsed information. If you'd need to receive information that hasn't been parsed yet by the HID parser, you'd rather register ->raw_event callback. There are various drivers that to this as well -- hid-zydacron being a really simple one and hid-magicmouse being a sophisticated one. I believe those drivers should serve as a perfect example for what you need. -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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* Re: Busted keyboard, fix, and Question about default HID device plumbing [not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1110080812170.14901-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org> @ 2011-10-09 0:31 ` Terry Lambert 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Terry Lambert @ 2011-10-09 0:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jiri Kosina Cc: Dmitry Torokhov, linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Linux Input Thanks! Working on it now... -- Terry On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: > On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Terry Lambert wrote: > >> You make a very good point on the key remapping. >> >> ... >> >> Are we sure that there isn't a field in the keyboard information in >> the USB that reports the keyboard does this? >> >> The only other alternative seems to be to quirk the keyboard as >> reporting keys down when they are down, up when they are up, and >> generating pseudo events for "keycode not present in report". >> >> I guess I'm willing to write a "hosed keyboard driver" driver if >> necessary. This apparently effects about 5-10% of keyboards, >> predominantly laptops with internal USB (some dell inspiron, some >> samsung), and the folding keyboards people like to use with android >> tablets. >> >> I'm willing to take any advice about where I can get a handle on all >> the keys in a given report to implement a general quirk on this >> hardware. >> >> If necessary, we can always write a driver, I suppose, if you can >> point me at an example? > > So if I understood the situation correctly (Dmitry, thanks for adding me > to CC), what you want to do is to write a very simple driver that has a > hook called every time HID event occurs on the keyboard, and have it do > modifier magic before it's reported to the input subsystem. > > There are various existing drivers which are doing exactly this that can > serve as an example. The simplest one probably is hid-microsoft, the more > sophisticated one is hid-apple. These two are registering ->event > callback, so they are obtaining already pre-parsed information. > > If you'd need to receive information that hasn't been parsed yet by the > HID parser, you'd rather register ->raw_event callback. There are various > drivers that to this as well -- hid-zydacron being a really simple one and > hid-magicmouse being a sophisticated one. > > I believe those drivers should serve as a perfect example for what you > need. > > -- > Jiri Kosina > SUSE Labs > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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