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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
Cc: od@zcrc.me, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] input: gpio-keys: Use hrtimer for software debounce
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:20:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YEU1irDqZJCdCS0o@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79IIPQ.DQ7JNXZ0OI5Q2@crapouillou.net>

On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 08:00:43PM +0000, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
> 
> Le ven. 5 mars 2021 à 10:35, Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 05:01:11PM +0000, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> > >  -static void gpio_keys_gpio_work_func(struct work_struct *work)
> > >  +static enum hrtimer_restart gpio_keys_debounce_timer(struct
> > > hrtimer *t)
> > >   {
> > >  -	struct gpio_button_data *bdata =
> > >  -		container_of(work, struct gpio_button_data, work.work);
> > >  +	struct gpio_button_data *bdata = container_of(t,
> > >  +						      struct gpio_button_data,
> > >  +						      debounce_timer);
> > > 
> > >   	gpio_keys_gpio_report_event(bdata);
> > 
> > I am not sure how this works. As far as I know, even
> > HRTIMER_MODE_REL_SOFT do not allow sleeping in the timer handlers, and
> > gpio_keys_gpio_report_event() use sleeping variant of GPIOD API (and
> > that is not going to change).
> 
> Quoting <linux/hrtimers.h>, the "timer callback will be executed in soft irq
> context", so sleeping should be possible.

I am afraid you misunderstand what soft irq context is, as softirqs and
tasklets still run in interrupt context and therefore can not sleep,
only code running in process context may sleep.

You can test it yourself by sticking "msleep(1)" in
gpio_keys_debounce_timer() and see if you will get "scheduling while
atomic" in logs.

> 
> But I guess in this case I can use HRTIMER_MODE_REL.

This changes selected clock source, but has no effect on whether timer
handler can sleep or not.

> 
> > It seems to me that if you want to use software debounce in gpio keys
> > driver you need to set up sufficiently high HZ for your system. Maybe we
> > could thrown a warning when we see low debounce delay and low HZ to
> > alert system developer.
> 
> This is exactly what we should not do. I certainly don't want to have 250+
> timer interrupts per second just so that input events aren't lost, to work
> around a sucky debounce implementation. Besides, if you consider the
> hrtimers doc (Documentation/timers/hrtimers.rst), hrtimers really are what
> should be used here.

I explained why they can't. They could be if you restrict gpio_keys to
only be used with GPIOs that do not require sleep to read their state,
but I am not willing to accept such restriction. You either need to have
longer debounce, higher HZ, or see if you can use GPIO controller that
supports debounce handling. See also if you can enable dynamic
ticks/NO_HZ to limit number of timer interrupts on idle system.

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-07 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-05 17:01 [PATCH 1/3] input: gpio-keys: Remove extra call to input_sync Paul Cercueil
2021-03-05 17:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] input: gpio-keys: Use hrtimer for release timer Paul Cercueil
2021-03-05 17:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] input: gpio-keys: Use hrtimer for software debounce Paul Cercueil
2021-03-05 18:35   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2021-03-05 20:00     ` Paul Cercueil
2021-03-07 20:20       ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2021-03-07 21:11         ` Paul Cercueil
2021-03-07 21:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2021-03-05 18:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] input: gpio-keys: Remove extra call to input_sync Dmitry Torokhov

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