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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/17] bitops: Add generic parity calculation for u64
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 13:05:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8CpaaHv0ahHFVuK@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250226222911.22cb0c18@pumpkin>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:29:11PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:27:03 -0500
> Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com> wrote:
> ....
> > +#define parity(val)					\
> > +({							\
> > +	u64 __v = (val);				\
> > +	int __ret;					\
> > +	switch (BITS_PER_TYPE(val)) {			\
> > +	case 64:					\
> > +		__v ^= __v >> 32;			\
> > +		fallthrough;				\
> > +	case 32:					\
> > +		__v ^= __v >> 16;			\
> > +		fallthrough;				\
> > +	case 16:					\
> > +		__v ^= __v >> 8;			\
> > +		fallthrough;				\
> > +	case 8:						\
> > +		__v ^= __v >> 4;			\
> > +		__ret =  (0x6996 >> (__v & 0xf)) & 1;	\
> > +		break;					\
> > +	default:					\
> > +		BUILD_BUG();				\
> > +	}						\
> > +	__ret;						\
> > +})
> > +
> 
> You really don't want to do that!
> gcc makes a right hash of it for x86 (32bit).
> See https://www.godbolt.org/z/jG8dv3cvs

GCC fails to even understand this. Of course, the __v should be an
__auto_type. But that way GCC fails to understand that case 64 is
a dead code for all smaller type and throws a false-positive 
Wshift-count-overflow. This is a known issue, unfixed for 25 years!

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4210
 
> You do better using a __v32 after the 64bit xor.

It should be an __auto_type. I already mentioned. So because of that,
we can either do something like this:

  #define parity(val)					\
  ({							\
  #ifdef CLANG                                          \
  	__auto_type __v = (val);			\
  #else /* GCC; because of this and that */             \
  	u64 __v = (val);			        \
  #endif                                                \
  	int __ret;					\

Or simply disable Wshift-count-overflow for GCC.

> Even the 64bit version is probably sub-optimal (both gcc and clang).
> The whole lot ends up being a bit single register dependency chain.
> You want to do:

No, I don't. I want to have a sane compiler that does it for me.

> 	mov %eax, %edx
> 	shrl $n, %eax
> 	xor %edx, %eax
> so that the 'mov' and 'shrl' can happen in the same clock
> (without relying on the register-register move being optimised out).
> 
> I dropped in the arm64 for an example of where the magic shift of 6996
> just adds an extra instruction.

It's still unclear to me that this parity thing is used in hot paths.
If that holds, it's unclear that your hand-made version is better than
what's generated by GCC.

Do you have any perf test?

Thanks,
Yury

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-27 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-23 16:42 [PATCH 00/17] Introduce and use generic parity32/64 helper Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 01/17] bitops: Add generic parity calculation for u32 Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 02/17] bitops: Add generic parity calculation for u64 Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-24  7:09   ` Jiri Slaby
2025-02-24 13:34     ` David Laight
2025-02-24 16:56       ` Yu-Chun Lin
2025-02-25 15:21       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-25 15:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-25 21:43         ` Andrew Cooper
2025-02-26  1:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-24 19:27   ` Yury Norov
2025-02-25 13:29     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-25 14:20       ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-26  7:14       ` Jiri Slaby
2025-02-26 17:59         ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-26 18:33         ` Yury Norov
2025-02-27  6:38           ` Jiri Slaby
2025-02-27 17:37             ` Yury Norov
2025-02-26 22:29     ` David Laight
2025-02-27 18:05       ` Yury Norov [this message]
2025-02-27 21:57         ` David Laight
2025-02-28  1:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-02 15:47           ` Yury Norov
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 03/17] x86: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-24 15:24   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-02-24 21:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-24 22:08       ` Uros Bizjak
2025-02-24 22:18         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-25  3:36         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-24 22:17       ` Yury Norov
2025-02-24 22:21         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-24 22:30           ` Yury Norov
2025-02-25 22:46       ` David Laight
2025-02-26  0:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 04/17] media: media/test_drivers: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 05/17] media: pci: cx18-av-vbi: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 06/17] media: saa7115: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 07/17] serial: max3100: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-24  7:25   ` Jiri Slaby
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 08/17] lib/bch: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 09/17] Input: joystick - " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 10/17] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 11/17] wifi: brcm80211: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-25  6:29   ` Arend Van Spriel
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 12/17] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 13/17] mtd: ssfdc: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 14/17] fsi: i2cr: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 15/17] fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 16/17] Input: joystick - " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 17/17] nfp: bpf: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-02-23 20:25 ` [PATCH 00/17] Introduce and use generic parity32/64 helper Uros Bizjak
2025-02-24 15:27   ` Yu-Chun Lin
2025-02-24  7:58 ` Jeremy Kerr
2025-02-24 15:35   ` Yu-Chun Lin

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