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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] Introduce parity_odd() and refactor redundant parity code
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 14:33:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_a9YpE46Xf8581l@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z/a5Qh/OeLT8JBS4@visitorckw-System-Product-Name>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 02:15:30AM +0800, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 12:54:35PM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 11:43:43PM +0800, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > > Several parts of the kernel contain open-coded and redundant
> > > implementations of parity calculation. This patch series introduces
> > > a unified helper, parity_odd(), to simplify and standardize these
> > > cases.
> > > 
> > > The first patch renames parity8() to parity_odd(), changes its argument
> > 
> > Alright, if it's an extension of the area of applicability, it should be
> > renamed to just parity(). I already shared a table that summarized the
> > drivers authors' view on that, and they clearly prefer not to add the
> > suffix - 13 vs 2. The __builtin_parity() doesn't care of suffix as well. 
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/Z9GtcNJie8TRKywZ@thinkpad/
> > 
> > Yes, the argument that boolean function should explain itself sounds
> > correct, but in this case, comment on top of the function looks enough
> > to me.
> > 
> > The existing codebase doesn't care about the suffix as well. If no
> > strong preference, let's just pick a short and sweet name?
> > 
> I don't have a strong preference for the name, but if I had to guess
> the return value from the function prototype, I would intuitively
> expect an int to return "0 for even and 1 for odd," and a bool to
> return "true for even, false for odd." I recall Jiri and Jacob shared
> similar thoughts, which is why I felt adding _odd could provide better
> clarity.

I think they said they are convinced that parity should return 1 for
odd because of folding and __builtin_parity() arguments.
 
> However, I agree that if the kernel doc comment is clear, it might not
> be a big issue. But David previously mentioned that he doesn't want to
> rely on checking the function's documentation every time while reading
> the code.

He's wrong. Kernel engineers _must_ read documentation, regardless.
 
> Regardless, I'm flexible as long as we all reach a consensus on the
> naming.
> 
> > > type from u8 to u64 for broader applicability, and updates its return
> > > type from int to bool to make its usage and return semantics more
> > > intuitive-returning true for odd parity and false for even parity. It
> > > also adds __attribute_const__ to enable compiler optimizations.
> > 
> > That's correct and nice, but can you support it with a bloat-o-meter's
> > before/after and/or asm snippets? I also think it worth to be a separate
> > patch, preferably the last patch in the series.
> > 
> I quickly tested it with the x86 defconfig, and it appears that the
> generated code doesn't change. I forgot who requested the addition
> during the review process, but I initially thought it would either
> improve the generated code or leave it unchanged without significantly
> increasing the source code size.

That's what I actually expected, but was shy to guess openly. :). It's
hard to imagine how compiler may improve code generation in this case...

This attribute is used when there's an asm block, or some non-trivial
function call. In this case, the function is self-consistent and makes
no calls. And you see, const annotation raises more questions than
solves problems. Let's drop it.

Thanks,
Yury

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-09 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-09 15:43 [PATCH v4 00/13] Introduce parity_odd() and refactor redundant parity code Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] bitops: Change parity8() to parity_odd() with u64 input and bool return type Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 16:59   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-09 18:25     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 18:39       ` Guenter Roeck
2025-04-09 19:21         ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] media: media/test_drivers: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity_odd() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 17:03   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-09 18:23     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 18:41       ` Yury Norov
2025-04-09 18:56         ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-10 15:07           ` Yury Norov
2025-04-25  8:33   ` Hans Verkuil
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] media: pci: cx18-av-vbi: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 18:43   ` Arend van Spriel
2025-04-09 18:59     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-25  8:51       ` Hans Verkuil
2025-04-09 22:06     ` Johannes Berg
2025-04-10  5:08       ` Arend Van Spriel
2025-04-11 16:37         ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-11 17:04           ` Arend Van Spriel
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] media: saa7115: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-25  8:51   ` Hans Verkuil
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] serial: max3100: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 17:24   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-09 18:30     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] lib/bch: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] Input: joystick - " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 19:23   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] wifi: brcm80211: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-15 16:13   ` Simon Horman
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] mtd: ssfdc: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] fsi: i2cr: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] nfp: bpf: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 16:54 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Introduce parity_odd() and refactor redundant parity code Yury Norov
2025-04-09 18:15   ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-09 18:33     ` Yury Norov [this message]
2025-04-10  2:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-04-11 16:34         ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-25 19:33           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-04-26  9:14             ` Kuan-Wei Chiu

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