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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Mark Pearson <markpearson@lenovo.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>,
	Nitin Joshi1 <njoshi1@lenovo.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [External] Using IIO to export laptop palm-sensor and lap-mode info to userspace?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:16:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeb7bc51-0b27-198b-d3b5-50b18ad114e7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201120095943.000001a6@Huawei.com>

Hi,

On 11/20/20 10:59 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 16:39:07 +0100
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> On 2020-10-03 10:02 a.m., Hans de Goede wrote:  
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Modern laptops can have various sensors which are kinda
>>>>>>>>> like proximity sensors, but not really (they are more
>>>>>>>>> specific in which part of the laptop the user is
>>>>>>>>> proximate to).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specifically modern Thinkpad's have 2 readings which we
>>>>>>>>> want to export to userspace, and I'm wondering if we
>>>>>>>>> could use the IIO framework for this since these readings
>>>>>>>>> are in essence sensor readings:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. These laptops have a sensor in the palm-rests to
>>>>>>>>> check if a user is physically proximate to the device's
>>>>>>>>> palm-rests. This info will be used by userspace for WWAN
>>>>>>>>> functionality to control the transmission level safely.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A patch adding a thinkpad_acpi specific sysfs API for this
>>>>>>>>> is currently pending:
>>>>>>>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11722127/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I'm wondering if it would not be better to use
>>>>>>>>> IIO to export this info.  

<snip>

>>> On newer ARM we use "label" attribute in DTS:
>>>
>>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7180-trogdor.dtsi
>>>
>>>         ap_sar_sensor: proximity@28 {
>>>                 compatible = "semtech,sx9310";
>>>                 reg = <0x28>;
>>>                 #io-channel-cells = <1>;
>>>                 pinctrl-names = "default";
>>>                 pinctrl-0 = <&p_sensor_int_l>;
>>>
>>>                 interrupt-parent = <&tlmm>;
>>>                 interrupts = <24 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_LOW>;
>>>
>>>                 vdd-supply = <&pp3300_a>;
>>>                 svdd-supply = <&pp1800_prox>;
>>>
>>>                 status = "disabled";
>>>                 label = "proximity-wifi";
>>>         };  
>>
>> Hmm, interesting. I did not know iio-devices could
>> have a label sysfs attribute (nor that that could be
>> set through device-tree). I was thinking about adding
>> an in_proximity_location sysfs attribute. But using
>> labels (and standardizing a set of label names) will
>> work nicely too.
> 
> It's fairly new.   Note we also have per channel labels
> though they are 'very new'.  Might be handy if the sensors
> appear as a single device despite being spread over the
> laptop.

Interesting, the thinkpad_acpi stuff currently has 2
proximity(ish) sensors:

1. Laptop is close to (on) someones lap
2. Someone's arms are resting on or close to the palmrest

Ideally we would indeed register 1 iio-dev with separate
channels for this, rather then having to register 2
(and the future maybe even more) iio-devs for this.

Can you give a pointer to docs / examples of using a
label per channel ?

>> Is there a know set of labels which ChromeOS is currently
>> using? If we are going to use labels for this it would
>> be good IMHO to define a set of standard labels for
>> this in say Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-iio-labels.
> 
> If you do want to do this, please just put it under sysfs-bus-iio
> doc.  I want this to be in the top level doc.

Ok, ack.

Dmitry, can you perhaps dig up a full-list of labels
which ChromeOS is currently using to identify
proximity sensors for e.g. SAR related use?

Regards,

Hans


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-23 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <9f9b0ff6-3bf1-63c4-eb36-901cecd7c4d9@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <5a646527-7a1f-2fb9-7c09-8becdbff417b@lenovo.com>
2020-10-07  8:36   ` [External] Using IIO to export laptop palm-sensor and lap-mode info to userspace? Jonathan Cameron
2020-10-07  9:51     ` Hans de Goede
2020-10-07 11:35       ` Bastien Nocera
2020-10-07 13:08         ` Hans de Goede
2020-10-07 13:29           ` Bastien Nocera
2020-10-07 13:32             ` Hans de Goede
2020-10-08  0:14               ` Jeff LaBundy
2020-10-08  7:10                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-10-09  2:19                   ` Jeff LaBundy
2020-10-12 12:13                     ` Hans de Goede
2020-10-13 21:59                       ` Mark Pearson
2020-10-14  4:47                         ` Jeff LaBundy
2020-10-14  8:16                         ` Hans de Goede
2020-10-14 14:26                           ` Mark Pearson
2020-10-12 12:36                   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2020-10-13  1:12                     ` Mark Pearson
2020-10-13  8:38                     ` Hans de Goede
2020-11-12  6:23       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-11-12  9:50         ` Hans de Goede
2020-11-13  6:58           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-11-19 15:39             ` Hans de Goede
2020-11-19 16:11               ` Bastien Nocera
2020-11-20  9:59               ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-11-23 12:16                 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2020-11-23 16:07                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2020-11-19 15:16         ` Bastien Nocera
2020-11-19 15:24           ` Hans de Goede
2020-11-19 15:58             ` Bastien Nocera

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