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From: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 01/32] Kconfig: introduce and depend on LEGACY_PCI
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:58:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1475f6aecb752a858941f44a957b2183cd68405.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211228101435.3a55b983@coco.lan>

On Tue, 2021-12-28 at 10:15 +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:21:23 +0100
> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> escreveu:
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 05:42:46PM +0100, Niklas Schnelle wrote:
> > > --- a/drivers/pci/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/drivers/pci/Kconfig
> > > @@ -23,6 +23,17 @@ menuconfig PCI
> > >  
> > >  if PCI
> > >  
> > > +config LEGACY_PCI
> > > +	bool "Enable support for legacy PCI devices"
> > > +	depends on HAVE_PCI
> > > +	help
> > > +	   This option enables support for legacy PCI devices. This includes
> > > +	   PCI devices attached directly or via a bridge on a PCI Express bus.
> > > +	   It also includes compatibility features on PCI Express devices which
> > > +	   make use of legacy I/O spaces.  
> 
> This Kconfig doesn't seem what it is needed there, as this should be an 
> arch-dependent feature, and not something that the poor user should be
> aware if a given architecture supports it or not. Also, the above will keep
> causing warnings or errors with randconfigs.
> 
> Also, the "depends on HAVE_CPI" is bogus, as PCI already depends on 
> HAVE_PCI:

Ah yes you're right.

> 
> 	menuconfig PCI
> 	bool "PCI support"
> 	depends on HAVE_PCI
> 	help
> 	  This option enables support for the PCI local bus, including
> 	  support for PCI-X and the foundations for PCI Express support.
> 	  Say 'Y' here unless you know what you are doing.
> 
> So, instead, I would expect that a new HAVE_xxx option would be
> added at arch/*/Kconfig, like:
> 
> 	config X86
> 		...
> 		select HAVE_PCI_DIRECT_IO
> 
> It would also make sense to document it at Documentation/features/.

I'll look into that, thanks.

> 
> > All you really care about is the "legacy" I/O spaces here, this isn't
> > tied to PCI specifically at all, right?
> > 
> > So why not just have a OLD_STYLE_IO config option or something like
> > that, to show that it's the i/o functions we care about here, not PCI at
> > all?
> > 
> > And maybe not call it "old" or "legacy" as time constantly goes forward,
> > just describe it as it is, "DIRECT_IO"?
> 
> Agreed. HAVE_PCI_DIRECT_IO (or something similar) seems a more appropriate
> name for it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mauro

Hmm, I might be missing something here but that sounds a lot like the
HAS_IOPORT option added in patch 02.

We add both LEGACY_PCI and HAS_IOPORT to differentiate between two
cases. HAS_IOPORT is for PC-style devices that are not on a PCI card
while LEGACY_PCI is for PCI drivers that require port I/O. This
includes pre-PCIe devices as well as PCIe devices which require
features like I/O spaces. The "legacy" naming is comes from the PCIe
spec which in section 2.1.1.2 says "PCI Express supports I/O Space for
compatibility with legacy devices which require their use. Future
revisions of this specification may deprecate the use of I/O Space."

These two separate config options allow us to compile without support
for these legacy PCI devices even on a system where inb()/outb() and
friends are required for some PC style devices and for example ACPI.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-28 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20211227164317.4146918-1-schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 01/32] Kconfig: introduce and depend on LEGACY_PCI Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 17:48   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-12-28  2:09   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-28  8:21   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-28  9:15     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-28 10:58       ` Niklas Schnelle [this message]
2021-12-28 12:01         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-28 12:54         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-28 15:06           ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 17:12             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-29 11:45               ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-29 12:12                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-29 16:03                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-29 16:55                     ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-01-05 17:42                       ` John Garry
2022-01-05 19:47                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-06 17:41                           ` John Garry
2022-01-06 18:14                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-07 17:16                               ` John Garry
2022-01-10  9:34                             ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 07/32] Input: gameport: add ISA and HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 11/32] Input: Kconfig: add " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:23   ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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