From: Cameron Gutman <aicommander@gmail.com>
To: Benjamin Valentin <benpicco@googlemail.com>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Input: xpad - add more Xbox one controller IDs
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 19:34:54 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd40fcf9-582f-d5fd-4eec-ef06a8ecdf3b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211113131734.46fbc9bf@rechenknecht2k11>
On 11/13/21 06:17, Benjamin Valentin wrote:
> These are collected from issue reports on [0].
>
> I wonder a bit why we need to maintain this list to begin with, when
> the consoles (and Windows) can apparently identify any new third party
> controller just fine.
There are 2 related problems here:
1) Detection of compatible gamepads
2) User-visible identification of gamepads and quirks
For 1, the way Windows does it is via the Microsoft OS descriptor [0].
AFAIK, the specific OS descriptor strings are "XUSB20" for Xbox 360 and
"XGIP10" for Xbox One.
That functionality is handled by xpad_table[] and the bInterfaceProtocol
detection logic in xpad_probe(). The xpad_device[] entry isn't required for
detection or functionality of devices, unless those devices need special
treatment like MAP_TRIGGERS_TO_BUTTONS or something.
Since the protocols are vendor-defined, we end up having to maintain the
vendor list. If we could detect that Microsoft OS descriptor, that would
avoid the need to maintain the xpad_table[] vendor list.
2 is the main reason xpad_device[] exists (other than special devices).
Most devices have pretty useless string descriptors which doesn't really
allow userspace to provide a human-friendly descriptor for the user. OTOH,
Windows totally abdicates this responsibility and just refers to XInput
gamepads by a player index, so maybe it's not something we have to solve.
[0]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/usbcon/microsoft-os-1-0-descriptors-specification
> I don't have *that* many controllers to do extensive tests, but I wonder
> if there could be a better way.
>> [0] https://github.com/paroj/xpad/issues
>
> Signed-off-by: Benjamin Valentin <benpicco@googlemail.com>
Regards,
Cameron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-14 1:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-13 12:17 Input: xpad - add more Xbox one controller IDs Benjamin Valentin
2021-11-13 12:20 ` [PATCH] Input: xpad - remove 'rumble support' from TODO Benjamin Valentin
2021-11-14 1:34 ` Cameron Gutman [this message]
2021-11-14 19:51 ` Input: xpad - add more Xbox one controller IDs Benjamin Valentin
2021-11-14 20:37 ` Benjamin Valentin
2021-11-14 21:14 ` Cameron Gutman
2021-11-16 15:52 ` Benjamin Valentin
2021-11-14 21:05 ` Cameron Gutman
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