From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
Mika Westerberg <westeri@kernel.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
"open list:GPIO ACPI SUPPORT" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:GPIO ACPI SUPPORT" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:INPUT (KEYBOARD, MOUSE, JOYSTICK,
TOUCHSCREEN)..." <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] Input: Don't send fake button presses to wake system
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:21:35 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de548b27-4c43-4f30-af9d-b060101e6fd8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hyvpl4gvxc6h2r3itfofjduwb3vpobyo7a7z6g3zapzscqtafh@ixsd4amyljva>
On 6/26/2025 2:40 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 09:31:12PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 9:28 PM Dmitry Torokhov
>> <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 09:18:56PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 9:16 PM Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26-Jun-25 21:14, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 08:57:30PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26-Jun-25 20:48, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 01:20:54PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> I want to note this driver works quite differently than how ACPI power
>>>>>>>>> button does.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can see in acpi_button_notify() that the "keypress" is only forwarded
>>>>>>>>> when not suspended [1]. Otherwise it's just wakeup event (which is what my
>>>>>>>>> patch was modeling).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.16-rc3/drivers/acpi/button.c#L461
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you check acpi_button_resume() you will see that the events are sent
>>>>>>>> from there. Except that for some reason they chose to use KEY_WAKEUP and
>>>>>>>> not KEY_POWER, oh well. Unlike acpi button driver gpio_keys is used on
>>>>>>>> multiple other platforms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting, but the ACPI button code presumably only does this on resume
>>>>>>> for a normal press while the system is awake it does use KEY_POWER, right ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. It is unclear to me why they chose to mangle the event on wakeup,
>>>>>> it does not seem to be captured in the email discussions or in the patch
>>>>>> description.
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume they did this to avoid the immediate re-suspend on wakeup by
>>>>> power-button issue. GNOME has a workaround for this, but I assume that
>>>>> some userspace desktop environments are still going to have a problem
>>>>> with this.
>>>>
>>>> It was done for this reason IIRC, but it should have been documented
>>>> more thoroughly.
>>>
>>> I assert that it should not have been done and instead dealt with in
>>> userspace. There are numerous drivers in the kernel emitting
>>> KEY_POWER. Let userspace decide how to handle this, what keys to ignore,
>>> what keys to process and when.
>>
>> Please see my last message in this thread (just sent) and see the
>> changelog of commit 16f70feaabe9 ("ACPI: button: trigger wakeup key
>> events").
>>
>> This appears to be about cases when no event would be signaled to user
>> space at all (power button wakeup from ACPI S3).
>
> Ahh, in S3 we do not know if we've been woken up with Sleep or Power
> button, right? So we can not send the "right" event code and use
> "neutral" KEY_WAKEUP for both. Is this right?
>
> Thanks.
>
I did some more experiments with this affected system that started this
thread (which uses s2idle).
I only applied patch 3 in this series to help the debounce behavior and
figure out impacts from patch 4 with existing Linux userspace.
If suspended using systemd in GNOME (click the GUI button) on Ubuntu
24.04 the GNOME workaround mitigates this problem and no visible impact.
If I suspend by hand using the kernel interface and then press power
button to wake:
# echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state:
* When GNOME is running:
I get the shutdown popup and it eventually shuts down.
* When GNOME isn't running (just on a VT):
System shuts down.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-26 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-25 21:58 [PATCH v3 0/4] Fix soc-button-array debounce Mario Limonciello
2025-06-25 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] gpiolib: acpi: Add a helper for programming debounce Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 14:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-26 16:04 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-25 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] gpiolib: acpi: Program debounce when finding GPIO Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 14:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-25 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Input: Don't program hw debounce for soc_button_array devices Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 8:27 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-26 14:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-25 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] Input: Don't send fake button presses to wake system Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 8:35 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-26 11:33 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 17:44 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 17:53 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 18:07 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 18:20 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 18:48 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 18:55 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 19:06 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 19:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-26 18:57 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-26 19:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 19:16 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-26 19:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 19:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 19:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-26 22:21 ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2025-06-27 4:56 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-27 14:06 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-27 14:14 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-27 14:44 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-27 15:56 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-27 16:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-27 17:59 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-27 18:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-27 18:36 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-27 18:56 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-27 19:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-06-27 19:38 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-27 19:44 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-27 20:25 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-27 20:29 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-27 19:45 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-27 10:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 19:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-06-26 18:37 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-26 18:42 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 18:45 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-26 18:47 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-26 14:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-26 14:35 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Fix soc-button-array debounce Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-26 15:59 ` Mario Limonciello
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