From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <matthewg@nvidia.com>,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
rafael@kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] tpm: Define a kernel-owned TPM NV index that can't be modified by userland
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2026 08:04:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <059384e86fd256618498b9a7214b6421d38fdf1f.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asqthz69ohnMVCye@srcf.ucam.org>
On Sat, 2026-10-10 at 14:26 -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 11:22:34AM +0200, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> > The reason I never really proposed such a scheme is the rollback
> > problem (old version of OS or non-Linux OS can create the NV index
> > from user space bypassing the kernel only block) which you try to
> > solve with PCR5. Do you have any data for how widespread measuring
> > exitbootservices is? I know edk2 does it, but I just looked on my
> > XPS13 and I only have two PCR5 events: a separator and the GPT
> > table, so it's definitely in violation, but if Dells don't do this
> > then it's indicative that many other manufacturers might not as
> > well.
>
> Does your log replay correctly for PCR 5? It's *extremely* common for
> the extension to happen without logging, since logging needs to be
> done into the late events table and almost nobody got that right
> until a few years ago (hence
> https://github.com/google/go-attestation/blob/master/attest/eventlog_workarounds.go#L70
> )
It seems to. This is what tpm2-eventlog returns (edited only to show
PCR 5):
---
version: 1
events:
- EventNum: 20
PCRIndex: 5
EventType: EV_SEPARATOR
DigestCount: 2
Digests:
- AlgorithmId: sha1
Digest: "9069ca78e7450a285173431b3e52c5c25299e473"
- AlgorithmId: sha256
Digest: "df3f619804a92fdb4057192dc43dd748ea778adc52bc498ce80524c014b81119"
EventSize: 4
Event: "00000000"
- EventNum: 22
PCRIndex: 5
EventType: EV_EFI_GPT_EVENT
DigestCount: 2
Digests:
- AlgorithmId: sha1
Digest: "bcd4ef027ee6b70a1ce07b37378da7ad02bfc545"
- AlgorithmId: sha256
Digest: "ed5eaf5ac436743417c862277ac71e1f202e6ff734fcf9a4ecdabc0d045d20a3"
EventSize: 484
Event: "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"
pcrs:
sha256:
5 : 0x9c41c9e22fb5275e84b88f7eda8a764961f67ede9dfad9626e84208c9f7de63c
and
jejb@lingrow:~> cat /sys/class/tpm/tpm0/pcr-sha256/5
9C41C9E22FB5275E84B88F7EDA8A764961F67EDE9DFAD9626E84208C9F7DE63C
So that's a match.
Regards,
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-11 6:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-08 13:20 [RFC] Make hibernation work with lockdown Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 01/17] tpm: Define a kernel-owned TPM NV index that can't be modified by userland Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:24 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 16:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-09 8:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 21:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 17:06 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2026-10-10 9:22 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-11 6:04 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2026-10-11 10:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-11 10:27 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-11 11:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-11 8:21 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 02/17] efi: Add a mechanism to modify TPM state depending on kernel security features Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:38 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 03/17] tpm: Allow tpm2_start_auth_session() to start an audit session Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 04/17] tpm: Log commands executed in " Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 05/17] tpm: Add a kernel attestation key and signed audit digest retrieval Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:45 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-09 8:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 06/17] tpm: Use TPM2_NV_ReadPublic to read NV index names Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 07/17] tpm: Add in-kernel support for reading NV indices Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 08/17] tpm: Add NV define, undefine and write helpers Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 09/17] tpm: Provision the kernel NV index at registration Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 10/17] tpm: Move the bounds-checked response reader to a header Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 11/17] tpm: Add kernel signing key creation with audited provenance Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 17:00 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-09 8:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 12/17] tpm: Add signing with the kernel signing key Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 13/17] tpm: Add verification of kernel signing key provenance Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 9:34 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:18 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 9:42 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:20 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 14/17] PM: hibernate: Add image digest and signature page infrastructure Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 15/17] PM: hibernate: Sign and verify images with a kernel-generated TPM key Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 16/17] PM: hibernate: Refuse to verify images with a virtual TPM Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 17/17] PM: hibernate: Allow hibernation under lockdown with signed images Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-09 8:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 21:29 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 15:56 ` [RFC] Make hibernation work with lockdown Jarkko Sakkinen
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