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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TPM selftest failure in 4.15
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 19:46:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1517510764.3145.38.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180201174053.GQ17053@ziepe.ca>

On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 10:40 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 03:24:08PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
> 
> > 
> > OK, I investigated but now my TPM has returned to normal (as in it
> > passes the selftest immediately).  There's clearly something that
> > makes it return TPM_RC_TESTING to every self test probe for seconds
> > at a time, but I don't know what it is.  Sending a different
> > command seems to cause the problem to clear (Managed to reproduce
> > once with the patch to verify), so this is my proposed fix.  It's
> > clearly nonsensical to detach the driver because the self test
> > still returns TPM_RC_TESTING, so convert that return to a
> > TPM_RC_SUCCESS on timeout.  It prints a warning message so we'll
> > see it in the logs if it causes problems.  Given that this seems to
> > be some type of internal TPM issue, I don't believe changing the
> > timings would work.
> 
> But if a selftest returns TPM2_RC_TESTING I would expect the next
> command to also fail with a testing in progress code? At least by the
> spec..

No, the spec says only that the command may fail with TPM_RC_TESTING
*if* the system it requires is under test.

I have no idea what's up with my TPM.  The selftests usually complete
in under 1ms and return TPM_RC_SUCCESS.  However occasionally the self
test can return TPM_RC_TESTING for seconds.

I've already booted with the patch and verified it doesn't induce any
failures for me.  Either the long running test is in a completely
unconnected subsystem or invoking a different command forces the TPM to
clear the testing state.

> The point of invoking selftest is to get to a state where future TPM
> commands will succeed, so returning immediately on RC_TESTING seems
> wrong?

Well it's definitely less wrong than the converse of actually detaching
the TPM driver because a self test is apparently still in progress.  If
you depend on the TPM for a critical function, your entire system is
hosed at that point.

I honestly don't think we should be waiting for the self test at all.
 We should kick it off and treat any TPM_RC_TESTING error as -EAGAIN.
 We're already under fire for slow boot sequences and adding 2s just to
wait for the TPM to self test adds to that for no real value.

James

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-01 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-01 12:16 TPM selftest failure in 4.15 James Bottomley
2018-02-01 12:21 ` Paul Menzel
2018-02-01 12:42   ` James Bottomley
2018-02-01 15:24     ` James Bottomley
2018-02-01 17:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-02-01 18:46         ` James Bottomley [this message]
2018-02-01 18:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-02-01 20:00             ` James Bottomley
2018-02-01 20:35               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-02-01 21:06                 ` James Bottomley
2018-02-08 13:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-08 17:02                 ` James Bottomley
2018-02-09 10:02                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-09 10:30                     ` Nayna Jain
2018-02-15 12:00                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-09 11:47                     ` Alexander Steffen
2018-02-15 12:12                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-15 15:13                         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-02-16 18:30                           ` Alexander Steffen
2018-02-19  9:15                             ` Nayna Jain
2018-02-19 22:26                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-02-16 18:27                         ` Alexander Steffen
2018-02-20 13:05                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-09 12:26                     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-02-09 16:23                       ` James Bottomley
2018-02-09 21:23                         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-08 18:27                         ` Ken Goldman
2018-02-09 16:18                     ` James Bottomley
2018-02-08 17:27         ` Ken Goldman
2018-02-01 19:16       ` TPM selftest failure in 4.15 (Dell XPS 13, Nuvoton 6xx) Paul Menzel
2018-02-01 19:17         ` Paul Menzel
2018-02-01 20:12           ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-02-01 21:06             ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-02-01 22:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-02-02  5:46                 ` James Bottomley
2018-02-02  5:46             ` James Bottomley
2018-02-08 16:53             ` Ken Goldman
2018-02-08 13:18         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-08 13:05       ` TPM selftest failure in 4.15 Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-08 13:03     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-08 12:49 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-02-08 18:45 ` Ken Goldman

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