From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Martin Townsend <mtownsend1973@gmail.com>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@huawei.com>,
LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: Problem mounting pseudo filesystems with SMACK and IMA enabled.
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:47:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1521474460.3503.191.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABatt_zM0Uu2fEwyORKTLYMC2_KeqSkcye1toBxhyjkgOUr62Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 14:37 +0000, Martin Townsend wrote:
[...]
> The problem was because systemd couldn't create directories for the
> mounts /dev/shm and /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd, it was returning -ENOKEY.
There's a disconnect between what ima-evm-utils supports and the
kernel. This sounds like the kernel you're using has directory
support, which has not been upstreamed.
> After investigating it looks like I need to set a key for HMAC to stop
> the mkdir failing which I didn't appreciate I needed with a pre-signed
> image.
> I have a question on this, looking at the IMA code it will try and
> replace my signatures with the HMAC unless the immutable attribute is
> set, is this correct?
EVM will replace the file signature with an HMAC, unless the
filesystem is mounted r/o, is immutable, or is signed with the new EVM
portable and immutable signature.
> In the evmctl utility there's mention of an evm
> immutable flag but I see nothing in the kernel code that supports
> this. Is this a feature that never made it into the kernel? or is it
> there but I've missed it?
The portable and immutable EVM signature is being added only in this
release (linux-4.16).
> Second question, I have no TPM module so do I need to add a key for
> HMAC or is there another way? It's not a problem if I have to add a
> key I just want to make 100% sure I have to before patching systemd or
> creating my own init process that adds the key before handing over to
> systemd.
systemd already has support for loading an EVM key.
The EVM encrypted key could be based on either a TPM trusted key or a
user key, without the HW guarantees of the private key not being
exposed in the clear. If you don't need an EVM key, then without a
TPM, you're probably better off backporting the new portable and
immutable EVM key.
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-19 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-16 9:32 Problem mounting pseudo filesystems with SMACK and IMA enabled Martin Townsend
2018-03-16 13:25 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-03-16 14:34 ` Martin Townsend
2018-03-16 14:49 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-03-16 15:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2018-03-17 9:20 ` Martin Townsend
2018-03-19 14:37 ` Martin Townsend
2018-03-19 15:47 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2018-03-20 10:23 ` Martin Townsend
2018-03-20 13:32 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-03-20 15:01 ` Martin Townsend
2018-03-20 16:11 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-03-20 16:14 ` Casey Schaufler
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