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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
	Nayna Jain <nayna@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: linux-next: UEFI Secure boot lockdown patchset
Date: Tue, 01 May 2018 18:21:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1525213285.5669.152.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACdnJut41527gX5xh8em8i2sZhEwYno3hN37mhNqhk7Jmtb-9g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 21:59 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:50 PM Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 21:02 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > Hm. My concern is that distributions are going to ship IMA in a
> > > configuration that allows users to add their own keys at boot time (it's
> > > difficult to use it in a generic way otherwise), and that's going to
> allow
> > > kexecing of arbitrary images without requiring physical access. I think
> > > kexec_file_load() needs to be relying on non-IMA signatures.
> 
> > I don't see how.  Unless the kernel was built with extra room for a
> > local CA public key (CONFIG_SYSTEM_EXTRA_CERTIFICATE), which would be
> > loaded onto the builtin keyring, there is no way of adding keys to the
> > IMA keyring.  Adding the extra public key would require the kernel to
> > be resigned.
> 
> Oh, is kexec verified off the _module keyring? We still end up with the
> problem that distributions don't have a mechanism to ship IMA signatures
> yet, but that avoids the user modification problem. I've just posted a
> patchset to debian-dpkg, we'll see how that goes.

I'm not aware of a _module keyring.  With IMA-appraisal, the signature
verification of the kernel image (kexec_file_load) uses the trusted
IMA keyring.  Nayna Jain posted a patch that defines a new platform
keyring[1], which would only be used to validate the kernel image and
initramfs signatures.

Your review would be much appreciated!

I really do hope that some version of including file signatures in
Debian packages will be upstreamed soon.  Good luck!

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/2/28/1089

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-01 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <26787.1519902415@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
2018-05-01 17:28 ` linux-next: UEFI Secure boot lockdown patchset Matthew Garrett
2018-05-01 19:00   ` David Howells
2018-05-01 20:15     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 21:02       ` Matthew Garrett
2018-05-01 21:50         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 21:59           ` Matthew Garrett
2018-05-01 22:21             ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2018-05-01 22:32               ` Matthew Garrett
2018-05-01 23:43                 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 23:46                   ` Matthew Garrett
2018-05-02  1:00                     ` Mimi Zohar

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