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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Linux-Audit Mailing List <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	paul@paul-moore.com, sgrubb@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] audit: add containerid support for IMA-audit
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 08:53:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1526647996.3632.164.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86df5c2c-9db3-21b9-b91b-30a4f53f9504@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2018-05-18 at 07:49 -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 05/17/2018 05:30 PM, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

[...]

> >>> auxiliary record either by being converted to a syscall auxiliary record
> >>> by using current->audit_context rather than NULL when calling
> >>> audit_log_start(), or creating a local audit_context and calling
> >> ima_parse_rule() is invoked when setting a policy by writing it into
> >> /sys/kernel/security/ima/policy. We unfortunately don't have the
> >> current->audit_context in this case.
> > Sure you do.  What process writes to that file?  That's the one we care
> > about, unless it is somehow handed off to a queue and processed later in
> > a different context.
> 
> I just printk'd it again. current->audit_context is NULL in this case.

The builtin policy rules are loaded at __init.  Subsequently a custom
policy can replace the builtin policy rules by writing to the
securityfs file.  Is the audit_context NULL in both cases?



> >> If so, which ones? We could probably refactor the current
> >> integrity_audit_message() and have ima_parse_rule() call into it to get
> >> those fields as well. I suppose adding new fields to it wouldn't be
> >> considered breaking user space?
> > Changing the order of existing fields or inserting fields could break
> > stuff and is strongly discouraged without a good reason, but appending
> > fields is usually the right way to add information.
> >
> > There are exceptions, and in this case, I'd pick the "more standard" of
> > the formats for AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE (ima_audit_measurement?) and stick
> > with that, abandoning the other format, renaming the less standard
> > version of the record (ima_parse_rule?) and perhpas adopting that
> > abandonned format for the new record type while using
> > current->audit_context.

This sounds right, other than "type=INTEGRITY_RULE" (1805) for
ima_audit_measurement().  Could we rename type=1805 to be
INTEGRITY_AUDIT or INTEGRITY_IMA_AUDIT?  The new type=1806 audit
message could be named INTEGRITY_RULE or, if that would be confusing,
INTEGRITY_POLICY_RULE.


> 1806 would be in sync with INTEGRITY_RULE now for process related info. 
> If this looks good, I'll remove the dependency on your local context 
> creation and post the series.
> 
> The justification for the change is that the INTEGRITY_RULE, as produced 
> by ima_parse_rule(), is broken.

Post which series?  The IMA namespacing patch set?  This change should
be upstreamed independently of IMA namespacing.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-18 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-05 13:43 [PATCH] audit: add containerid support for IMA-audit Mimi Zohar
2018-03-05 13:50 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-05 14:24   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-03-08 11:21     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-08 18:02       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-03-13  5:53         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-17 14:18       ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-17 21:30         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 11:49           ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-18 12:53             ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2018-05-18 13:54               ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-18 14:39                 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-18 14:52                   ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-18 16:00                     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 15:56                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 16:34                     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-18 16:50                       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-21 17:21                       ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-21 18:04                         ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-21 18:40                           ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-18 15:51               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 15:45             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 16:49               ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-18 17:01                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-21 16:58         ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-21 17:53           ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-21 18:30             ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-21 21:57               ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-22 13:43                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-22 14:12                   ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-22 14:09                 ` Steve Grubb

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