From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B5AC31E46 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2110E20896 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726167AbfFLScQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:32:16 -0400 Received: from mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com ([148.163.156.1]:47128 "EHLO mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726067AbfFLScQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:32:16 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (m0098396.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x5CIWAZj062732 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:32:15 -0400 Received: from e06smtp03.uk.ibm.com (e06smtp03.uk.ibm.com [195.75.94.99]) by mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2t367w9863-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:32:15 -0400 Received: from localhost by e06smtp03.uk.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:32:13 +0100 Received: from b06cxnps4075.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (9.149.109.197) by e06smtp03.uk.ibm.com (192.168.101.133) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256) Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:32:09 +0100 Received: from d06av26.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av26.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.105.62]) by b06cxnps4075.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id x5CIW7JS48365742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:32:07 GMT Received: from d06av26.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8673FAE055; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:32:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from d06av26.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DA9AE045; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:32:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dhcp-9-31-103-88.watson.ibm.com (unknown [9.31.103.88]) by d06av26.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:32:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] [IMA] Measure public keys of BuiltIn Trusted Keys From: Mimi Zohar To: Jordan Hand , Lakshmi , Ken Goldman , Linux Integrity , David Howells Cc: James Morris , Prakhar Srivastava , Balaji Balasubramanyan , Matthew Garrett , James Bottomley Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:32:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <71cc3b9b-d045-8a69-5917-96b4c5654b16@linux.ibm.com> <0561ce44-f8f7-15f5-6eaf-fb97a785692a@linux.microsoft.com> <1560255756.4464.111.camel@linux.ibm.com> <1560273181.4464.226.camel@linux.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5 (3.20.5-1.fc24) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 19061218-0012-0000-0000-00000328963D X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 19061218-0013-0000-0000-000021619F2B Message-Id: <1560364320.4578.83.camel@linux.ibm.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-06-12_11:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=658 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906120124 Sender: linux-integrity-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jordan Hand wrote: > I don't understand why measuring the keyring is more restrictive. It's more restrictive because of which keyring you're measuring.  You're not measuring the IMA keyring, but the builtin keyring. Mimi