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From: Ken Goldman <kgold@linux.ibm.com>
To: Sush Shringarputale <sushring@linux.microsoft.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	peterhuewe@gmx.de, jarkko@kernel.org, jgg@ziepe.ca,
	bhe@redhat.com, vgoyal@redhat.com, dyoung@redhat.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	serge@hallyn.com
Cc: code@tyhicks.com, nramas@linux.microsoft.com,
	Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] IMA Log Snapshotting Design Proposal - unseal
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:12:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ef45099-da24-b73f-b33f-6a299c0b1696@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c5737141-7827-1c83-ab38-0119dcfea485@linux.microsoft.com>

On 8/1/2023 3:12 PM, Sush Shringarputale wrote:

> For remote attestation to work, the service will need to know how to
>  validate the snapshot_aggregate entry in the IMA log.  It will have
> to read the PCR values present in the template data of
> snapshot_aggregate event in the latest IMA log, and ensure that the
> PCR quotes align with the contents of the past UM_snapshot_file(s).
> This will re-establish the chain of trust needed for the device to
> pass remote attestation.  This will also maintain the ability of the
> remote-attestation-service to seal the secrets, if the client-server
>  use TPM unseal mechanism to attest the state of the device.

I think that seal/unseal to IMA PCRs is futile.  Since boot is
multi-threaded, the IMA PCR is unpredictable even when valid.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-30 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-01 19:12 [RFC] IMA Log Snapshotting Design Proposal Sush Shringarputale
2023-08-01 21:21 ` James Bottomley
2023-08-07 22:49   ` Stefan Berger
2023-08-08 12:35     ` James Bottomley
2023-08-08 13:31       ` Stefan Berger
2023-08-08 18:26         ` James Bottomley
2023-08-08 20:09           ` Stefan Berger
2023-08-08 21:41             ` James Bottomley
2023-08-10  4:43               ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-10 11:43                 ` James Bottomley
2023-08-11 15:48                   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-10  4:31           ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-10  4:29         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-10  1:23       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-10  1:15     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-10 14:12       ` Stefan Berger
2023-08-11 15:57         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-11 18:16           ` Stefan Berger
2023-08-10  1:03   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-08-11 13:14 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-14 21:42   ` Sush Shringarputale
2023-08-14 22:02     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-21 22:05       ` Sush Shringarputale
2023-08-21 23:07         ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-29 19:34           ` Paul Moore
2023-08-29 21:03             ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-29 21:30               ` Paul Moore
2023-08-29 21:54                 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-29 23:15                   ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 20:25                     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-30 20:47                       ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 21:50                         ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-30 22:21                           ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 22:23                             ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 23:06                               ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-30 23:22                                 ` Paul Moore
2023-08-31 14:01                                   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-08-31 14:43                                     ` Paul Moore
2023-08-31 16:46                                   ` Dr. Greg
2023-08-31 17:56                                     ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 18:06 ` [RFC] IMA Log Snapshotting Design Proposal - network bandwidth Ken Goldman
2023-09-01 21:20   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-09-06 20:20     ` Ken Goldman
2023-09-07 20:40       ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 18:12 ` [RFC] IMA Log Snapshotting Design Proposal - aggregate Ken Goldman
2023-09-01 22:06   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-09-06 20:49     ` Ken Goldman
2023-09-07 21:02       ` Paul Moore
2023-08-30 19:12 ` Ken Goldman [this message]
2023-08-31 15:54   ` [RFC] IMA Log Snapshotting Design Proposal - unseal Dr. Greg
2023-09-01 21:22   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-09-06 20:13     ` Ken Goldman

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