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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Philip Tricca <philip.b.tricca@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	William Roberts <william.c.roberts@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] tpm: don't return -EINVAL if TPM command validation fails
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:30:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171121123006.esr7yxs5lvorlfjf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c148cf0-2403-55cf-1633-ff326d5c6f7b@redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:07:34AM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> As mentioned, I think this should be documented. I guess most people
> would see the in-kernel resource manager as a virtualized TPM, since
> the "TSS TAB and Resource Manager Specification" [0] explains the RM
> making an analogy with a virtual memory manager: 
> 
> "The Resource Manager (RM) manages the TPM context in a manner similar
> to a virtual memory manager. It swaps objects, sessions, and sequences
> in and out of the limited TPM memory as needed."

A process in virtual memory has a different environment than code
running on bare metal without page table, doesn't it?

> And even your latest LPC presentation mention that the handles in the
> in-kernel resource manager are virtualized [1].
> 
> And I disagree that it does not matter, since the same spec says:
> 
> "This layer is mostly transparent to the upper layers of the TSS and is
> not required."
> 
> But returning -EINVAL instead of a proper TPM command response with a
> TPM_RC_COMMAND_CODE code makes it not transparent to the upper layer.

*mostly*

> If the TPM spaces infrastructure is not compliant with the spec, then I
> think that should also be documented.

TPM specification is not a formal specification AFAIK.

> > matters less than breaking the sandbox.
> >
> 
> Yes, sorry for that. It wasn't clear to me that there was a sandbox and my
> lack of familiarity with the code was the reason why I posted as a RFC in
> the first place.
> 
> Do you agree with Jason's suggestion to send a synthesized TPM command in
> the that the command isn't supported?

Nope.

/Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-21 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-17 10:07 [RFC PATCH] tpm: don't return -EINVAL if TPM command validation fails Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-17 17:56   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 17:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-17 18:10       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 18:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-17 18:34           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 19:14             ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-17 23:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-18  0:53                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-19 15:27                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-20  9:26                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-20 16:14                       ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-20 18:02                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-20 18:04                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-12-08 20:03           ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-08 20:18             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-12-08 19:58   ` Ken Goldman
2017-11-20 23:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21  9:07   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-21  9:27     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-21 12:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2017-11-21 12:49       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
     [not found]         ` <DB638850A6A2434A93ECADDA0BC838905F09D5D9@ORSMSX103.amr.corp.intel.com>
2017-11-22 17:16           ` FW: " flihp
2017-11-22 19:25             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-26 14:21               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-29 11:26                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-22 20:13             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-12-08 20:16               ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-08 20:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-26 14:18             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-26 23:23               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-26 14:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21 20:29       ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-22  9:26         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-26 14:12           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-26 23:19             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-12-08 20:11           ` Ken Goldman
2017-11-26 14:06         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-08 20:20           ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-08 21:34             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-12-17 16:47               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-17 18:18                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-12-22 17:38                 ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-14 13:11             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-08 19:51 ` Ken Goldman

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