From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
Philip Tricca <philip.b.tricca@intel.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
William Roberts <william.c.roberts@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] tpm: don't return -EINVAL if TPM command validation fails
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:30:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171121123006.esr7yxs5lvorlfjf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c148cf0-2403-55cf-1633-ff326d5c6f7b@redhat.com>
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:07:34AM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> As mentioned, I think this should be documented. I guess most people
> would see the in-kernel resource manager as a virtualized TPM, since
> the "TSS TAB and Resource Manager Specification" [0] explains the RM
> making an analogy with a virtual memory manager:
>
> "The Resource Manager (RM) manages the TPM context in a manner similar
> to a virtual memory manager. It swaps objects, sessions, and sequences
> in and out of the limited TPM memory as needed."
A process in virtual memory has a different environment than code
running on bare metal without page table, doesn't it?
> And even your latest LPC presentation mention that the handles in the
> in-kernel resource manager are virtualized [1].
>
> And I disagree that it does not matter, since the same spec says:
>
> "This layer is mostly transparent to the upper layers of the TSS and is
> not required."
>
> But returning -EINVAL instead of a proper TPM command response with a
> TPM_RC_COMMAND_CODE code makes it not transparent to the upper layer.
*mostly*
> If the TPM spaces infrastructure is not compliant with the spec, then I
> think that should also be documented.
TPM specification is not a formal specification AFAIK.
> > matters less than breaking the sandbox.
> >
>
> Yes, sorry for that. It wasn't clear to me that there was a sandbox and my
> lack of familiarity with the code was the reason why I posted as a RFC in
> the first place.
>
> Do you agree with Jason's suggestion to send a synthesized TPM command in
> the that the command isn't supported?
Nope.
/Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-21 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-17 10:07 [RFC PATCH] tpm: don't return -EINVAL if TPM command validation fails Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-17 17:56 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 17:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-17 18:10 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 18:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-17 18:34 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-17 19:14 ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-17 23:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-18 0:53 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-19 15:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-20 9:26 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-20 16:14 ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-20 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-20 18:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-12-08 20:03 ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-08 20:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-12-08 19:58 ` Ken Goldman
2017-11-20 23:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21 9:07 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-21 9:27 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-21 12:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2017-11-21 12:49 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
[not found] ` <DB638850A6A2434A93ECADDA0BC838905F09D5D9@ORSMSX103.amr.corp.intel.com>
2017-11-22 17:16 ` FW: " flihp
2017-11-22 19:25 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-26 14:21 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-29 11:26 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-22 20:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-12-08 20:16 ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-08 20:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-11-26 14:18 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-26 23:23 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-26 14:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21 20:29 ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-22 9:26 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-11-26 14:12 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-26 23:19 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-12-08 20:11 ` Ken Goldman
2017-11-26 14:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-08 20:20 ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-08 21:34 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-12-17 16:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-17 18:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-12-22 17:38 ` Ken Goldman
2017-12-14 13:11 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-08 19:51 ` Ken Goldman
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