From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Calvin Owens <calvinowens@fb.com>,
Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: Make timeout logic simpler and more robust
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:50:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190312125028.GC9243@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1552350463.23859.8.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 05:27:43PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-03-11 at 16:54 -0700, Calvin Owens wrote:
> > e're having lots of problems with TPM commands timing out, and we're
> > seeing these problems across lots of different hardware (both v1/v2).
> >
> > I instrumented the driver to collect latency data, but I wasn't able
> > to find any specific timeout to fix: it seems like many of them are
> > too aggressive. So I tried replacing all the timeout logic with a
> > single universal long timeout, and found that makes our TPMs 100%
> > reliable.
> >
> > Given that this timeout logic is very complex, problematic, and
> > appears to serve no real purpose, I propose simply deleting all of
> > it.
>
> "no real purpose" is a bit strong given that all these timeouts are
> standards mandated. The purpose stated by the standards is that there
> needs to be a way of differentiating the TPM crashed from the TPM is
> taking a very long time to respond. For a normally functioning TPM it
> looks complex and unnecessary, but for a malfunctioning one it's a
> lifesaver.
Standards should be only followed when they make practical sense and
ignored when not. The range is only up to 2s anyway.
/Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-12 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-11 23:54 [PATCH] tpm: Make timeout logic simpler and more robust Calvin Owens
2019-03-12 0:27 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 12:50 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2019-03-12 14:42 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 15:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-03-12 19:41 ` Calvin Owens
2019-03-12 16:59 ` Mimi Zohar
2019-03-12 17:14 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 18:32 ` Mimi Zohar
2019-03-12 19:37 ` Calvin Owens
2019-03-12 12:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-03-12 16:56 ` Mimi Zohar
2019-03-12 14:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-03-12 17:04 ` Mimi Zohar
2019-03-12 20:08 ` Calvin Owens
2019-03-12 20:56 ` Mimi Zohar
2019-03-13 13:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-03-13 13:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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