From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
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Patrick Uiterwijk <patrick@puiterwijk.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/12] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 20:35:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <335ba50bcb9069faac135bce77c6f7ba19bd90ca.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f76fcf41728fbdd65f2b3464df0821f248b2cba0.camel@linux.ibm.com>
On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 09:10 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 14:38 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 20:20 -0400, Eric Snowberg wrote:
> > > Many UEFI Linux distributions boot using shim. The UEFI shim provides
> > > what is called Machine Owner Keys (MOK). Shim uses both the UEFI Secure
> > > Boot DB and MOK keys to validate the next step in the boot chain. The
> > > MOK facility can be used to import user generated keys. These keys can
> > > be used to sign an end-user development kernel build. When Linux boots,
> > > pre-boot keys (both UEFI Secure Boot DB and MOK keys) get loaded in the
> > > Linux .platform keyring.
> > >
> > > Currently, pre-boot keys are not trusted within the Linux trust boundary
> > > [1]. These platform keys can only be used for kexec. If an end-user
> > > wants to use their own key within the Linux trust boundary, they must
> > > either compile it into the kernel themselves or use the insert-sys-cert
> > > script. Both options present a problem. Many end-users do not want to
> > > compile their own kernels. With the insert-sys-cert option, there are
> > > missing upstream changes [2]. Also, with the insert-sys-cert option,
> > > the end-user must re-sign their kernel again with their own key, and
> > > then insert that key into the MOK db. Another problem with
> > > insert-sys-cert is that only a single key can be inserted into a
> > > compressed kernel.
> > >
> > > Having the ability to insert a key into the Linux trust boundary opens
> > > up various possibilities. The end-user can use a pre-built kernel and
> > > sign their own kernel modules. It also opens up the ability for an
> > > end-user to more easily use digital signature based IMA-appraisal. To
> > > get a key into the ima keyring, it must be signed by a key within the
> > > Linux trust boundary.
> >
> > As of today, I can use a prebuilt kernel, crate my own MOK key and sign
> > modules. What will be different?
>
> The UEFI db and MOK keys are being loaded onto the .platform keyring,
> which is suppose to be limited to verifying the kexec kernel image
> signature. With a downstream patch, kernel modules are being verified
> as well.
>
> Initially Patrick Uiterwijk's "[PATCH 0/3] Load keys from TPM2 NV Index
> on IMA keyring" patch set attempted to define a new root of trust based
> on a key stored in the TPM. This patch set is similarly attempting to
> define a new root of trust based on CA keys stored in the MOK db.
>
> The purpose of this patch set is to define a new, safe trust source
> parallel to the builtin keyring, without relying on a downstream patch.
> With the new root of trust, the end user could sign his own kernel
> modules, sign third party keys, and load keys onto the IMA keyring,
> which can be used for signing the IMA policy and other files.
I can, as of today, generate my own mok key and sign my LKM's, and
kernel will verify my LKM's.
What is different?
/Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-23 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-19 0:20 [PATCH v4 00/12] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:20 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] integrity: Introduce a Linux keyring for the Machine Owner Key (MOK) Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:20 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] integrity: Do not allow mok keyring updates following init Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] KEYS: CA link restriction Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] integrity: restrict INTEGRITY_KEYRING_MOK to restrict_link_by_ca Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] integrity: add new keyring handler for mok keys Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] KEYS: add a reference to mok keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] KEYS: Introduce link restriction to include builtin, secondary and mok keys Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] KEYS: integrity: change link restriction to trust the mok keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] KEYS: link secondary_trusted_keys to mok trusted keys Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] integrity: store reference to mok keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] integrity: Trust MOK keys if MokListTrustedRT found Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 0:21 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] integrity: Only use mok keyring when uefi_check_trust_mok_keys is true Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 11:38 ` [PATCH v4 00/12] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-08-19 13:10 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-19 15:23 ` Eric Snowberg
2021-08-19 17:32 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-23 17:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-08-23 20:48 ` Nayna
2021-08-24 14:34 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-25 22:21 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-08-25 22:27 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-27 20:44 ` Nayna
2021-08-30 17:39 ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-01 0:52 ` Nayna
2021-09-01 1:51 ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-02 10:18 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-09-01 4:34 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-01 4:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-01 4:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-08-23 17:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-08-23 17:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2021-08-23 17:48 ` Eric Snowberg
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