From: "Wang, Nicholas" <chenkai3@illinois.edu>
To: "linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org" <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Wang, Nicholas" <chenkai3@illinois.edu>
Subject: [RFC] Issue of historical file and script invocation when using IMA for runtime attestation
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 12:57:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6165162.lOV4Wx5bFT@nicoripper> (raw)
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Linux-integrity community,
Hi, I'm Nicholas Wang from UIUC, and we are researching the potential
challenges of a remote runtime attestation tool using IMA, Keylime, under a
simulated deployment environment. In the process, we conducted multiple
experiments, and we encountered some issues that we realize may not be able to
be solved entirely in userspace.
To sum up the first issue, IMA may not reflect the whole picture of invocation
or activation history. In particular, we are in question about "Once the
earlier measurements are verified, there is no need to verify them again"
according to IMA event log documentation. First off, Keylime uses directories
or paths for matching and ignoring files in their policy file; in IMA policy,
"dont_measure" filters out filesystems. We see two potential scenarios in which
malicious actors may silently bypass the attestation. We assume Keylime user
does not use "dont_measure" filters in IMA policy and IMA indeed measured
everything while Keylime attest the digests according to its own policy.
Keylime would filter and ignore certain files based on its own directories and
file filtering, and such ignored files would only appear in IMA log once as long
as the system is not rebooted. Now the issue arises: 1. if the file being moved
within the same filesystem, it will never re-appear in IMA logs even with
further invocations, as IMA treated them the exact same file. This may allow an
attack to persist throughout until a fresh reboot. 2. In case of a long-lived
system which has patched a vulnerable version of one software, the old,
vulnerable version which has been in the IMA log before will not appear in
case of further activation before a reboot. Thus, we believe that the design
which measures each file once may in some cases not reflect a comprehensive
state of the machine to meet runtime attestation needs.
The other issue we run into is script invocation. We find this is tricky as we
realize that scripts being too versatile and hard to enforce the attestation
upon execution, and executing them directly (through shebang) versus passing
it to interpreters/shell as arguments results in a drastically different
attestation result as the latter only attests the interpreter binary itself.
While a naive solution would be turning on attestation for file read operations
in IMA policy or use SELinux file types to facilitate, however, we suspect it
would still be an unmanageable task with unbearable performance. As the nature
of the problem is essentially to distinguish code from data, the only
reasonable solution we currently have thought is to have interpreters
themselves to do the task, and indicate IMA what is code through API.
Alternatively, the only probable way would be any attestation tool eventually
had to have their own kernel modules and extended file types for IMA policy,
and decide on what to be measured in separate components.
We wonder whether there is or has been discussions around these questions. If
so, we would like to learn more about any ongoing efforts or plan on changing
the current situation, or if not, would like to hear the opinions from the
kernel community regarding the two issues.
Best regards,
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Nicholas Wang
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-13 12:57 Wang, Nicholas [this message]
2025-02-13 14:05 ` [RFC] Issue of historical file and script invocation when using IMA for runtime attestation Roberto Sassu
2025-02-14 2:57 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-02-18 18:06 ` Wang, Nicholas
2025-02-18 20:00 ` Mimi Zohar
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